Best to ask a list where folks have done it, as it's clear nobody here has worked it out or is watching the list who has.
Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter -----Original Message----- From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Seth Lowman Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 10:30 AM To: QWS list <qws@AndreLouis.COM> Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments I remember Proteus VX had a hiccup with my Windows 8 machine, something about initializing audio drivers, but when I ran it as administrator, it seemed to fix the issue. Since it appears there’s no run as administrator option in windows 10, I’m curious as to how you would resolve the issue for someone like Joe Who is running windows 10. God bless! Seth On Jun 26, 2021, at 2:45 PM, Nicole Massey <ny...@gypsyheir.com> wrote: I seem to remember that someone on another blind musician's list has Proteus VX working on Windows 10. I think it installed on my Windows 10 laptop too, though I haven't use that machine much so far. Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter -----Original Message----- From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Seth Lowman Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 2:39 PM To: QWS list <qws@AndreLouis.COM> Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments Yes that is true. That’s why since I’m not running windows 10, I’ve also been using Midi yoke along side it. Might have to check out the one you’re using if I ever upgrade, which, since it appears Proteus VX won’t work on windows 10, that is highly doubtful. At this point I think I’ll stick with my Windows 7 machine, slow and stupid as it may be at times. God bless! Seth On Jun 26, 2021, at 12:02 PM, Simon Jaeger <si...@simonj.me <mailto:si...@simonj.me> > wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think LoopBe only allows one port unless you pay for it. This is the one I use and it works on latest Windows 10: https://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html This is free and you can define as many ports as you want. The only trouble is that the list of configured ports is not accessible. Arrow keys will traverse the list, but screen-readers can't identify it as a list and won't tell you where the cursor lands. You therefore have to do a bit of guess work to correctly modify or delete the ports you've created. Since you can still read the order of them with something like the JAWS cursor or NVDA flat review, and even may be able to mouse click them to select them, this has never been a deal breaker for me. It's also the only software of its kind that I've found will let you rename the ports. So instead of having to remember that Proteus is on MidiYoke 7 or rename it from within QWS, you can just create a new port and call it Proteus VX. On 6/26/2021 9:37 AM, Seth Lowman wrote: Also, if midi yoke is giving you too much trouble, here’s another one you can try: LoopBe1 virtual midi cable from the following website: https://www.nerds.de/en/download.html God bless! Seth On Jun 26, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Nicole Massey <ny...@gypsyheir.com <mailto:ny...@gypsyheir.com> > wrote: This is all a special subset of normal computer stuff, so that's understandable that you might not have all the info on what's going on. If the interface isn't in the ports list follow Seth's advice about finding a driver. Check the options in Proteus VX to find out where it's sending your audio. And you'll need MIDIYoke or another virtual MIDI cable to connect with the Proteus. Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter -----Original Message----- From: mai...@andrelouis.com <mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com> [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Joe Giovanelli Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 10:44 AM To: QWS list <qws@AndreLouis.COM <mailto:qws@AndreLouis.COM> > Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments I heard there were problems with Hal computers but by this time all such deficiencies should have been overcome. Thanks for the warning. I just cancelled my order before it shipped out!! I thought I'd see the ports in QWS. I hope that the Rack still works. It's possible that the memory backup battery failed. That's replaceable but some memory info would be lost. I'd nhave to remap the unit. If the Triton can't be salvaged, I'd need to go back to Proteus. I can't run that program because it can't initialize the audio. The drivers for that are working as they should. Midiyoke won't load either and I don't remember what the message was. I hope you know that I have used computers for years even though it must look like I'm a rank clutz! Joe G. On 6/25/2021 5:54 PM, Nicole Massey wrote: No, the HAL series has a problematic design flaw. Best to avoid them if possible. You don't need MIDIYoke for any physical device, the MIDI interface takes care of that. It'll show up in your ports list in QWS. Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter -----Original Message----- From: mai...@andrelouis.com <mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com> [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Joe Giovanelli Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 3:41 PM To: QWS list <qws@AndreLouis.COM <mailto:qws@AndreLouis.COM> > Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments I have the USB Nto MIDI adapter. I guess the hookup has to be: Medeli controler to computer. Maybe computer to Triton MIDI in. Not sure the computer would send an output that way. I wondered if MIDI Yoke could be used in this way. Right now Midiyoke says it is having its installation interrupted, and I have to start it again. Looks to me that UAC is getting in the way. Proteus Vx says it can't initialize audio. Drivers are fine. Do I need a Hal 10000? Joe On 6/25/2021 11:25 AM, Nicole Massey wrote: You need a MIDI interface hooked up to your computer. Then you cable the Triton up and you're good to go. If there isn't a Triton definition file Instavert can output one from a Cakewalk definition file. No reason to try to create one by hand. Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter -----Original Message----- From: mai...@andrelouis.com <mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com> [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Joe Giovanelli Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 8:58 AM To: QWS list <qws@AndreLouis.COM <mailto:qws@AndreLouis.COM> > Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments Hello, S eth, I am truly sorry for bothering this list with all of my difficulties. I have a Win 7 machine and will probably try this, using Yoke as the cable. I have an alternate which was just offered me. It's a Triton Rack. I successfully used that some years ago. If that instrument still works, I'd like to use it. Question is how to connect it to my computer. I can use my keyboard as a controler by connecting it to my computer, but how do I send the output of the computer to the Triton. I suspect there's an intermediary program needed here. This has been a truly frustrating experience for me, and perhaps those on this list. Thank your kindness and patience. Joe G. On 6/24/2021 1:32 PM, Seth Lowman wrote: Well good to know. Maybe I won’t be updating to windows 10 anytime soon if I can’t run that on it. Of course, if anybody else has gotten Proteus VX to work on windows 10, please chime in. I’ve heard that windows 10 is a huge pain in the neck as it is, as Microsoft keeps updating and changing things all over the map. The only thing I can think for you to do, Joe, is the try running Proteus VX on an older computer if you have one. It runs well on my Windows 7 PC, which is mostly what I use for work with QWS. Sadly, my Windows 8 machine barely works anymore; it had to travel a lot with me while I was in college, and with all the shaking and jostling it took in my backpack, it seems to have developed motherboard issues. God bless! Seth On Jun 24, 2021, at 7:13 AM, Joe Giovanelli <joegio...@gmail.com <mailto:joegio...@gmail.com> > wrote: Seth, I tried this and there was nothing about running as administrater. I am running Win 10 and it may be different from your OS. I still can make Proteus VX run because of problems with audio drivers. When I did a search for this program, I found various versions. Maybe I got the wrong one. I'm floundering around here and sinking. Someone just offered me a Triton Rack. If it still works, that would bail me out of this. I can send instructions from the controler to the computer, but how would I connect the computer to the MIDI In on the Triton? Thank you for all your info. Joe G. On 6/24/2021 12:53 AM, Seth Lowman wrote: Richard, that looks right. Joe, have you tried running it as administrator? I had some problems with this on my Windows 8 machine if I remember correctly. It gave me an error first time I opened it, so what I did was went into the context menu, (press your applications key or right click the mouse), and chose run as administrator, and it worked. God bless! 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