Thanks, all, for your input. 
I have tried all the keyswitches, and none of them have the shake articulation 
assigned to them.  I watched a YouTube video about using session horns, and 
apparently you can get the shake articulation, if you have sight and can use 
the mouse.  Nope, sorry, I’ll just have to invest in a more accessible sound 
library, and yes, one that does sound a little bit better.  Someone on the 
MOAccess list pointed me to this:
https://fablesounds.com/broadway-big-band/
Sounds amazing and it said to work with Kontakt, but so so expensive.  I’ll 
also look into the ones Andre suggested. Many thanks!    

God bless!
Seth

On Feb 16, 2022, at 9:50 PM, Andre Louis <onj.lo...@googlemail.com> wrote:

Hi. The Session Horns key switches at c0 (or basically lowest C you can reach 
after octave-shifting) should help.
If you don't care for Session Horns, try ProjectSAM Swing! And Swing More 
libraries, which may offer better Jazz sounds anyway.
Personally, I think they do, and they play nicer in my opinion. I own both.

Not relevant to this list however.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicole Massey" <ny...@gypsyheir.com>
To: "QWS list" <qws@AndreLouis.COM>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2022 3:33 AM
Subject: RE: QWS List Session Horns alternative:


Is there any way to drop these in using any kind of MIDI data? If so then all 
you need to do is save them to a file and open the file to copy and paste (in 
the main file) the articulation. Things like shakes, flutter tounging, doits, 
and even falls should be rare enough this shouldn't be too much of a headache 
to drop them in every once in a while. But more to the point, if there's no way 
to designate these articulations through MIDI, Music XML, or other notation 
friendly formats then it's going to be impossible to have these in the parts so 
horn players can play them. And anything using program change is going to be 
opaque to notation programs too, which would rule out the keyboards you 
mentioned. None of this matters if you're going to not use real horns.

The other important consideration is that the shakes are different between 
trumpets and trombones/saxophones. Trumpet shakes tend to be more volume based 
than pitch based, while trombone shakes are 100% pitch, and sax shakes can 
involve either variation depending on what the section leader decides. So if 
you're going for a realistic performance the sound source needs to take the 
different performance methods into consideration. Note also that back when I 
was playing in jazz ensembles we tended to strike out these types of 
articulations instead of playing them, because they can clutter things up a lot.

Nicole

-----Original Message-----
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Seth 
Lowman
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 8:43 PM
To: QWS list <qws@AndreLouis.COM>
Subject: QWS List Session Horns alternative:

Hello all.
Subject says it all. I am thoroughly disappointed with session horns pro, as 
while it is somewhat KK accessible, there appears to be  no way to access the 
additional articulations that are supposed to be available,   But that are, 
stupidly enough, not included in  any  of the presets, for example brass 
shakes.  I did some searching online to see if I could figure out how to access 
these articulation, but it appears you cannot do so without using the stupid 
mouse, and being blind I cannot do that. Does anybody know of any workarounds 
for this?  I need these additional articulation for some of my jazz 
composition, and if I cannot access them without sighted assistance then what’s 
the point of having this plug-in in the first place?  May as well just spend 
the additional money on a Tyros 5 or a Montage  and have access to what I need 
with velocity switches and control change messages.
If there is no workaround, are there any other jazz horn plugins that are fully 
accessible?

God bless!
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