Thanks, but no thanks, Eric! I'm happy to throw together a facebook page but 
don't have time to take on the website. (I don't know drupal, for one 
thing.)

Maintenance of the FB page is minimal. It's a quick setup, a quick copy and 
paste of some basic info from the website, and then anyone listed as an 
admin can post events. Presumably, that would be me, Eric (if you want), 
Alicia, and who else? Anybody?



----- Original Message ----- 
From: Eric Scoles
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: facebook link



Pat, to answer your question, right now I'm the technology officer. But if 
you're interested in being an officer, I'd be happy to endorse you as my 
replacement ;-).

If someone's got the energy to maintain a Facebook page for R-SPEC, I say 
more power to them.

My general concern about Facebook is that it only really networks with 
Facebook. It's a walled garden. You get the illusion of great connectedness, 
but you're actually making a conscious choice to limit yourself to 
Facebookers. Same thing is true of SL, but with SL the choice is more 
obvious and ever-present, whereas Facebook is designed to obfuscate it.

(Actually, in some ways SL is arguably more open than Facebook. But that's 
another discussion for another time.)

The Rochester Poets example is good, I suppose.

Re. the idea of multiple people posting to Facebook -- Jonathan raised it on 
another thread -- I don't think you can do that, at least not that way. You 
can "friend" R-SPEC and tag it and have R-SPEC show up on your feeds, or 
have R-SPEC show some stuff from different people's feeds in its own feed, 
but I don't know what the limitations are on that -- Pat probably does.

The platform our website is based on is capable of all manner of integration 
with outside resources -- integrating inbound newsfeeds, specialized 
outbound newsfeeds/calendar feeds, sophisticated calendaring (even some 
integration w/ Google Calendar). The problem is that as my workload at work 
has increased, I've had little time to build those capabilities into the 
site.




On 2009-02-04, Pat Rapp <[email protected]> wrote:
  Oops - that was the wrong link. Sorry.
  *blush*

  Here's the right one:
  
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?sid=3c30aaab1e07aca4b8f53c8237d651b7&gid=35268132830

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Pat Rapp
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 9:36 PM
  Subject: Re: DNA in action!


  Who's the technology officer? I was just offering to do it because it's a 
good idea, it's easy exposure, and it's free. If someone else wants to do 
it, I say go for it.

  An example:
  
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=646157164&ref=profile#/group.php?gid=35268132830

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Alicia Henn
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 9:22 PM
  Subject: Re: DNA in action!


  One of the things we've talked about doing is expanding our online 
presence beyond our website. There has been resistance to a Second Life 
R-SPEC presence. We should hear from our technology officer before launching 
a Facebook page.


  How do facebook pages for organizations work? I've never seen one.


  Alicia

  On Feb 4, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Jonathan Sherwood wrote:


    I'll pitch in my yes vote.


    Can we set it up to allow certain people to post? Obviously, we don't 
want anyone in the world posting updates, but I don't think we'd want just 
one person with access, either.

    --
    Jonathan Sherwood
    Sr. Science & Technology Press Officer
    University of Rochester
    585-273-4726



    On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:


      I can put up an R-Spec page on Facebook, if there's no objection.

      It only takes a few minutes and we can easily post announcements,
      events, videos, pictures, link to our website, etc.


      On Feb 4, 10:01 am, Jonathan Sherwood <[email protected]>
      wrote:

      > I had been wondering about R-SPEC on Facebook. I don't know enough 
about it,
      > other than that it's a good way for people to keep abreast of what 
we're up
      > to.
      > But I think Pat's right - we need to promote individual meetings to 
some
      > degree. The D&C would run it in their calendar, and we can make sure 
other
      > places such as Writers and Books have it posted.
      >
      > --
      > Jonathan Sherwood
      > Sr. Science & Technology Press Officer
      > University of Rochester
      > 585-273-4726
      >
      >
      >

      > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Pat Rapp <[email protected]> 
wrote:
      >
      > > Or, perhaps more fitting to this group in particular -- as the 
atheist
      > > otters on South Park say, "For science's sake."
      > > : )
      >
      > > All kidding aside, I agree that it's unfortunate that there was 
such a low
      > > turnout when we had a guest speaker of such high caliber.
      >
      > > Having said that, there are times when one just cannot get to a 
meeting.
      > > Work and school are priorities. What we should do next time is try 
a little
      > > harder to promote the event -- submitting to the newspaper, 
blogging it,
      > > facebooking it, etc. That way, even if the regular R-Spec crowd is 
unable
      > > to
      > > attend, maybe the wider general public would show up.
      >
      > > ----- Original Message -----

      > > From: "Dave Henn" <[email protected]>
      > > To: <[email protected]>
      > > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 9:00 AM
      > > Subject: Re: DNA in action!
      >
      > > I'm sorry I couldn't be there, too. That's a lot of "I'm sorry I
      > > couldn't be there" posts. Of course, in my case, living 350 miles 
away
      > > during the week makes attendance a tad more difficult even if one
      > > doesn't have, er, scheduling conflicts. Had I been in town, and
      > > assuming I had functioning transportation, I probably could have 
found
      > > a way to juggle my time to squeeze in an hour or two at the talk. 
This
      > > probably not too subtle hint is not directed at any one person but 
is
      > > prompted by the cumulative weight of apologies for not being 
there.
      > > It's once a month, for God's sake (or, for the agnostics and 
atheists,
      > > goodness' sake, or, for the evil, for badness' sake, or, for the
      > > neutral, for whatever's sake, etc.). Same bat time, same bat 
channel
      > > next month.
      >
      > > Dave
      >
      > > P.S. We don't own a dog house, but I should probably build a nice 
one
      > > so when I come back to Rochester I can be comfortable. :-P
      >
      > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Jonathan Sherwood

      > > <[email protected]> wrote:
      > > > Yet another "sorry I couldn't be there" note (at least I have 
only two
      > > > more
      > > > months of Tuesday night classes!)
      > > > That video was stunning. I've forwarded it to half a dozen 
biologists.
      >
      > > > --
      > > > Jonathan Sherwood
      > > > Sr. Science & Technology Press Officer
      > > > University of Rochester
      > > > 585-273-4726
      >

      > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Eric Scoles 
<[email protected]>

      > > wrote:
      >
      > > >> Yes, thanks from me, too -- I really wanted to be there, I'm 
sorry I had
      > > >> to leave. Maybe we can get a panel together sometime, and 
promote it
      > > more
      > > >> heavily. Nancy and Mark for a start. Any other gene-iacal 
suggesticons?
      > > >> Get
      > > >> some real speculative juju moving. Other than Alicia (would it 
be
      > > awkward
      > > >> being on a panel with your manager?), do we have any 
biologists?
      >

      > > >> On 2009-02-04, Pat Rapp <[email protected]> wrote:
      >
      > > >>> Thank you for the summary, Nancy. I am so disappointed that I 
had to
      > > >>> miss
      > > >>> it!
      >
      > > >>> ----- Original Message -----

      > > >>> From: [email protected]
      > > >>> To: [email protected]
      > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 6:58 AM
      > > >>> Subject: Re: DNA in action!
      >
      > > >>> Last night's R-Spec meeting was fascinating -- it was too bad 
that only
      > > >>> seven people could make it.  Mark Zahn, Alicia's boss, spoke 
about
      > > >>> Biodefense.  He slanted his talk toward practical knowledge 
for SF
      > > >>> writers
      > > >>> who want to include weaponized genemods in their stories, and 
he did a
      > > >>> wonderful job.
      >
      > > >>> He talked about which pathogens best lend themselves to 
modification
      > > >>> (Ebola, for instance, has a very small genome and produces 
only eight
      > > >>> proteins, which means there's just not room enough in the cell 
to fit a
      > > >>> lot
      > > >>> of extra, genetically engineered stuff.)  Mark covered the 
assembly of
      > > >>> viruses using sequencing data and "off-the-shelf" sections of 
DNA.  He
      > > >>> talked about the origins and spread of epidemics.  I hadn't 
known that
      > > >>> the
      > > >>> natural host for influenza was an Asian species of duck, and 
that the
      > > >>> way
      > > >>> vaccine makers guess at which strains of flu will hit in a 
given winter
      > > >>> is
      > > >>> by examining ducks in late summer.
      >
      > > >>> The talk also covered what you need for a rogue genemod lab to
      > > weaponize
      > > >>> pathogens: off-the-rack equipment, experienced talent, and no 
more than
      > > >>> a
      > > >>> few million dollars.  What the Russians may or may not have 
been doing
      > > >>> in
      > > >>> this regard was discussed, including a recommendation for Ken 
Alibek's
      > > >>> scary
      > > >>> book BIOHAZARD (which I have read -- it's horrifying).  Mark 
finished
      > > >>> with
      > > >>> an overview of surveillance techniques used to spot and track 
epidemics
      > > >>> so
      > > >>> that appropriate measures can be taken, including quarantine 
if
      > > >>> necessary.
      >
      > > >>> Thank you, Alicia.  It was terrific.
      >

      > > >>> _________________________- Hide quoted text -
      >
      > - Show quoted text -
















-- 
eric scoles ([email protected])


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