Andrew,

You're right. However, I think the efforts (or intentions thereof) are
out there. I started messing with the quick start page, sadly I really
haven't had the time to finish even though  have every intention to do
so. Some people have already turned useful mailing lists post into
proper Wiki entries. So I think the intention is there is just that
I'm assuming most of us have busy lives that forbid us from spending
couple of hours writing and re-arranging and so forth.

Forums are the proberbial double-edge sword. In concept it sounds like
a great idea; however in practice, forums require a lot of attention
and time. Have seen way too many times forums turning into boxing
rinks. I've also seen forums turned into SPAM post galore and e-mail
harvesters paradise. Yes they can and are very useful, but John and/or
someone he chooses would have to be lurking around making sure things
roll smothly.

Yes the documentation needs to be improved and yes communication
*could* be improved; however, I'm not sure forums are the solution.
IMO



On 1/20/07, Andrew Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey all!
>
> You're all probably getting annoyed with hearing from me by this point.
> However, I may have some suggestions pertaining not directly to Radiant
> itself but moreso better communications.
>
> I find that maillists are great for the most part for keeping in contact
> with people, clients, members and so forth and to have linear
> conversations that may not be pertinent down the road.  One benefit with
> Radiant's mailgroup setup is that you can search the history of the
> mailgroups.
>
> However, speaking from someone who has developed applications in a group
> setting as well as now being a new adopter of a package developed as a
> group, I'm starting to see that mailgroups and their lack of continuity
> and constraint of 'flow' in a linear message-by-message system, the lack
> of ability to review a group of messages discussing the same topic
> quickly and even moreso difficult when you toss in the fact when people
> change the subject of a line of messages making searching impossible.
>
> My first suggestion is a decent way of communicating. I know you may all
> groan when I say 'forums', but right now the forums may be the best
> option to manage this level of communications effectively. I'm sure it
> would significantly reduce 'reasking' (like I'm sure I did with my last
> email), hunting for links, tracking suggestions and more.  I feel that
> with the level of emails coming through the group and the great expanse
> they cover, that forums would be far more logical, not only for now, but
> for the future and ability to track what has been discussed in the past.
>
> My second suggestion is the wiki being more actively maintained by not
> just developers, but the community as well.  It is a much more logical
> way to maintain an online 'manual' of sorts where people can place more
> and more documentation for the benefit of the users and developers
> alike.  While I feel that the wiki was a great addition; the
> implementation is not being carried through by all.
>
> I hope I am not over-stepping my boundaries; after being on this group
> for a few weeks now, stomping around the site looking for more
> information on expanding, these are the feelings I felt myself.  I love
> this system; it's the first CMS I've actually enjoyed messing with.  I
> can be as simplistic or detailled as I want to be and makes it easy to
> maintain as well.  I am a fan of Ruby and Ruby on Rails, which makes
> this system that much more enjoyable to use. I just do not want to see
> Radiant go downhill and would like to help however I can.
>
> Thank you for listening to my opinion :)
>
> Andrew
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