"Socialism"

Never-thought-I'd-live-to-see-the-day department:


PBS featured a news segment about the rise in popularity of Socialism among the 
young.

The figures are impressive, the total of the 18 to 30 generation shows a clear 
majority

in favor of, or positively disposed toward, Socialism.  Among older Americans

the tally is never better than maybe 20%.  That is, young Socialists or people

who like the idea, are in the 50+ percentage range.


This is largely thanks to Bernie Sanders.


Not too many Saint-Simonians here, but the idea to discuss is that RC is 
"positioned"

to take advantage of the new popularity of Socialism.


What we do not need to assume for one minute is that the word "Socialism"

necessarily refers to some form of Marxism. Unfortunately the Right takes the 
view

-by just about everyone who is a Right-winger-  that Socialism is identical to 
Marxism

of some kind, and, at that, is essentially a phenomenon of the old Soviet 
system.

This is a view found among populist Rightists like Sarah Palin as well

as more sophisticated  thinkers like Jonah Goldberg.


My point for a number of years has been that Saint-Simon's Socialism is better 
thought of

as Social Capitalism or something like that, a mixed system in nature,  that 
blends

social well being with a market economy.  Keep in mind that S-S was an 
enthusiast

for Adam Smith.



This is not the same as the Swedish system or any other welfare-led form

of Social Democracy, like that of Germany or France.


After all, Saint-Simon invented the slogan, "from each according to his ability

to each according to his work."


Marx, of course, corrupted the slogan and made it into a rallying cry for 
welfare,

viz "according to his need."


Not that there is no need for need-based welfare, but it is a question of 
priorities.

What Saint-Simon was advocating was meritocracy, in which those who do the best

are rationally rewarded. He said this at a time when the landed aristocracy 
still

reaped the benefits of  being privileged because they owned land, not because

they added any value to the economy or society.


Anyway, S-S thought that the best way to get a society engaged in being 
productive

was through involvement of investment bankers who would fund  -for their own 
profit-

the productive work of large populations who, in turn, would build the railroads

and bridges and tall buildings and factories and you-name-it.


The system was also designed to be both modern and productive and  to be

socially responsible, driven by the desire for profit but at the same time

by the desire for social good.  The objective was to create a system that

was, we might say, equally reform-minded and Socialist in character as well

as Capitalist in character and focused on inventions and creativity

and efficiency.  And high tech.  Nearly all of the leaders of the

Saint-Simonian movement were graduates of the Ecole Polytechnique,

the first university in the world to become, much later, epitomized

in the form of MIT or IIT or Cal Tech.


S-S is just about universally credited with being the "father of Socialism"

-as well as the father of social science.  Marx called him the "old testament"

of Socialism (with himself, Marx, supposedly being the NT).


But we are under no obligation to re-use all of Marx's characterizations.


To look at Saint-Simon's system from the vantage of the 21st century

we can say that S-S  was an early Radical Centrist.  In this sense

the term "Socialism" can be interpreted as a form of Radical Centrism

or as precursor to Radical Centrism.



This cannot be done by anyone who cannot help but associate Socialism

with Marx.  Indeed, it can only work by criticizing Marx strongly

and making sure others understand that anything that remotely

smells like Marxism is verboten, bad news,  not at all what is meant.


That is, it requires some knowledge of  Saint-Simon's ideas

but, with that, we can make good use of the term "Socialism" for RC purposes.


Plus S-S was a hero of the American Revolution and the man who

made the behavioral sciences integral to education. And there is a good chance

that the story about him meeting with Ben Franklin is true to the facts of 
history.

He admired Franklin, at any rate, and was as pro-American as anyone can get.


All of this can mean "Socialism."




Guillaume










-- 
-- 
Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community 
<[email protected]>
Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism
Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org

--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to [email protected].
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Reply via email to