Actually, I would agree with an even stronger version of that: government exists to solve external problems by creating internal problems. :-) I would say the government creates external AND internal problems, by trying to solve external problems. :)
Unfortunately, once you start down the road of civilization, there doesn’t appear to be any offramp. In order to survive, you have to keep on tackling new problems, but the price is greater and greater internal corruption. - Absolutely: things evolve. Things change. Sometimes for the worse, sometimes for the better. The Law of Impermanence. Or, This Too Shall Pass. The Web of Interdependent Causation which we are all a part of, that I talked about in my last email: it's not just for moment to moment. It's also from generation to generation. Case in point: the 1950s. This was a decade of much prosperity. Not for everyone, but for many. There were a lot of "good families", where people went to school, went to college, got a job, got married, had kids, and rinse and repeat. But a problem was brewing, as the next decade came on: many people asked, is that all there is to life? This repeating cycle,all the time? So the prosperity of the 1950's led to 1960's rebellion, which led to more drugs, more broken families, more crime, which led to....you get the idea. Again, because This happens, That happens....this chain of causation goes on and on. And indeed, there is no offramp. New challenges will always occur. No question about that. If we disagree about anything, it is that you appear to wish we could just cut back or stop growing. I must correct you on your interpretation here. I only said to cut back on government. By no means, did I say for society as a whole, to stop growing, or evolving. There seems to be an underlying assumption that seems to underlie all of your responses on this topic thus far: that because I want a small subset of society called government to be reduced, I want society as a whole to be reduced as well. This is not correct. I want society, and us as individuals, to keep growing - preferably, growing for the better, not worse.And I get curious about it too - We spoke about the chain of causative events from the 1950s onwards to more recent times. I wonder what the next chain of causative events will be, from now onwards .Stay tuned! What a ride! What a journey. And like you said, whatever does happen, there will probably never be an offramp. Now let me add: there ARE times, when "less is more". I.e, when we lose things,, or lessen things, we can gain, something else. And another phrase applies, called "work smarter not harder". I am sure, and I hope, you are not averse to these sayings. They don't apply everywhere, for sure, but they apply to some things. Best, Vik On Fri, Nov 14, 2025 at 2:31 PM Ernest Prabhakar <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Vik, > > *The road to hell is paved with good intentions.* > There is a saying that "government creates the very problems it tries to > solve." I would expand that to say "*in trying to solve the problem of > anarchy, government can create even more problems*." > > > Actually, I would agree with an even stronger version of that: government > exists to solve external problems by creating internal problems. :-) > > Unfortunately, once you start down the road of civilization, there doesn’t > appear to be any offramp. In order to survive, you have to keep on tackling > new problems, but the price is greater and greater internal corruption. > > If we disagree about anything, it is that you appear to wish we could just > cut back or stop growing. > > My perspective is that we need a fundamental reset; not so much less > government, but a whole different conception of what government is. That > transcends the complexity rather than denying it… > > Love, > Ernie > > -- > -- > Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community < > [email protected]> > Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism > Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/RadicalCentrism/89B51EEB-AE23-4E24-8836-36170725F18C%40gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/RadicalCentrism/89B51EEB-AE23-4E24-8836-36170725F18C%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- -- Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community <[email protected]> Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/RadicalCentrism/CAK2f141CtCdcF4agXc%3DvMNbiUFC6gump7swENbYbMXnxHxreVQ%40mail.gmail.com.
