I am a Buckaroo Straight Arrow Commander and have been for almost 4 years
ART, BSTC, Red course in LTC (provided I do my homework - right Clint?) and
NULC, and my Husband is the Sr. Commander ART, BSTC NTC. Think about it. I
am a concerned parent.  My husband is vice-president of the PTA and has been
President for the 2 years before that and I was the Historian.  I am his
secretary in both PTA and Rangers.  I sit with my children every night and
help them with their homework.  I pray with my children, in fact they call
me at work with prayer requests.

Why is it that you think I sign off as Chief Flaming Hair?  

> > We try to discourage boys from leaving the meetings.  However, these are
BOYS.> >  The "We" was not the royal we I was including myself.

Somebody better pray for me now!  Janet, Lorraine pray for me ladies.

Bob, this is the second time lately you've lambasted me and you don't know
me.  Go to the archives and find my heart.  Try RRGold as well.


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Simons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 5:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [RR] Kelly


One question-do you drop off your son at Rangers or do you stay and help? In
my opinion if you stay and help than you are a concerned parent, if you
return home then you don't have much input into what may happen. Think about
it.
Bob Simons

For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD,
"plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give
you hope and a future. Jer. 29:11
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> > We try to discourage boys from leaving the meetings.  However, these are
> > BOYS.  Allowing them to wet themselves is humiliating and inexcusable,
not
> > to mention the rash you inflicting on them.  Don't bother trying to
coerce
> > me.  It won't work.  Having a son with a paralyzed colon makes me
INCREDIBLY
> > biased on this issue.  Meaning if my son were not allowed to leave the
room
> > and he had a BM in his pants, I would remove him instantly from that
> > commander's care.  No questions asked.  Then I would go straight to a
> > meeting with the Senior Commander and the Pastor.  There is no reason
for
> > such behavior.  None what so ever.  Ever heard of the Buddy System?
> >
> > Sorry if I come on strong, but I have been dealing with this issue for
11
> > years.  Every time I do my son's laundry I am reminded of my son's
condition
> > and I pray over it cause I know how much it hurts and shames him.  You
don't
> > know if there is a similar situation with the any one of your boys.  Not
all
> > parents talk about it because your child will beg you not too.
> >
> > Cmdr. Kelly
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bob Simons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 1:35 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [RR] Spank'n the sassy boy..
> >
> >
> > It might be wet shoes this time and no life preserver the next. I had 2
boys
> > think that life preservers weren't necessary and cumbersome. I made them
get
> > out and walk halfway around the lake to get back to camp. They were mad
at
> > me but I don't want dead bodies on my outings.
> > I do know of a man who died from coral poisioning from not wearing shoes
> > while walking on coral. You never know!
> > Sure its extreme thinking but disobedience has to start and stop
somewhere.
> > I think that his grandfather had some wisdom at least more than some
kid.
> > Thats where respect comes in. My Dad taught me respect when I said
something
> > that was disrespectful. I hope that I can teach my boys the same thing
but
> > that seems to be a hard job because of what a lot of adults are
preaching.
> > "Question Authority" is unscriptural. Its black & white to me -not even
> > grey. The only possible exception would be what we already talked about
> > concerning the gospel, a higher authority.
> > My true story about my own son is just one example of disobedience that
> > could have been deadly. I'm not one of those who believes in avoiding
any
> > kind of fun because it might be dangerous but I also think good
judgement
> > can save an outing from going bad.
> >
> > I had an incident in Rangers where a boy wet himself because he wasn't
> > allowed to leave the room and he didn't go at the beginning when
everyone
> > else did. The Dad was irate at the incident but my question was to him
"Why
> > weren't you in there helping the commander so that someone could have
stayed
> > in the room with the rest of the boys." He said he was busy...too busy
to be
> > there when his son needed him..I guess.
> > The Commander was running it all alone.
> > Passing the blame is all to common place, these days.
> > Bob Simons
> >
> > For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD,
> > "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give
> > you hope and a future. Jer. 29:11
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >
> >
> > I would rather bruise a boys backside than have to explain why their son
is
> > dead.  I'm sure you all know what I mean if you think for a minute of
the
> > many
> > dangers on a campout.  I have seen kids disobey and had some close calls
> > including my own sons. A coffin doesn't give you a second chance to do
what
> > God tells you to do.  OBEY.  I have some devotions about this very
> > thing-anyone want to hear one?  Bob Simons
> >
> >
> >
> > I didn't realize that not putting on wet shoes would kill a boy.
> >
> > Let's hear the devotion.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
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