A lot of tones have been less than gracious. (;>) Bob Simons For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Jer. 29:11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gist, Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Bob Simons'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 3:50 PM Subject: RE: [RR] Kelly
> Well, let me put it this way your tone was not gracious. > > Kelly > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Simons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 5:51 PM > To: Gist, Kelly > Subject: Re: [RR] Kelly > > > I didn't lambast you-I asked you an honest question and you gave me an > honest answer. Please don't read anything beyond that. > You do stay and that speaks volumes to me as a Sr Commander!! > The Dad in question didn't stay and that was what I what I was referring to. > Calm down-you're hairs on fire!! (;>) > Bob Simons > > For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, > "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give > you hope and a future. Jer. 29:11 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gist, Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 3:22 PM > Subject: RE: [RR] Kelly > > > > I am a Buckaroo Straight Arrow Commander and have been for almost 4 years > > ART, BSTC, Red course in LTC (provided I do my homework - right Clint?) > and > > NULC, and my Husband is the Sr. Commander ART, BSTC NTC. Think about it. I > > am a concerned parent. My husband is vice-president of the PTA and has > been > > President for the 2 years before that and I was the Historian. I am his > > secretary in both PTA and Rangers. I sit with my children every night and > > help them with their homework. I pray with my children, in fact they call > > me at work with prayer requests. > > > > Why is it that you think I sign off as Chief Flaming Hair? > > > > > > We try to discourage boys from leaving the meetings. However, these > are > > BOYS.> > The "We" was not the royal we I was including myself. > > > > Somebody better pray for me now! Janet, Lorraine pray for me ladies. > > > > Bob, this is the second time lately you've lambasted me and you don't know > > me. Go to the archives and find my heart. Try RRGold as well. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bob Simons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 5:15 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [RR] Kelly > > > > > > One question-do you drop off your son at Rangers or do you stay and help? > In > > my opinion if you stay and help than you are a concerned parent, if you > > return home then you don't have much input into what may happen. Think > about > > it. > > Bob Simons > > > > For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, > > "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give > > you hope and a future. Jer. 29:11 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > We try to discourage boys from leaving the meetings. However, these > are > > > > BOYS. Allowing them to wet themselves is humiliating and inexcusable, > > not > > > > to mention the rash you inflicting on them. Don't bother trying to > > coerce > > > > me. It won't work. Having a son with a paralyzed colon makes me > > INCREDIBLY > > > > biased on this issue. Meaning if my son were not allowed to leave the > > room > > > > and he had a BM in his pants, I would remove him instantly from that > > > > commander's care. No questions asked. Then I would go straight to a > > > > meeting with the Senior Commander and the Pastor. There is no reason > > for > > > > such behavior. None what so ever. Ever heard of the Buddy System? > > > > > > > > Sorry if I come on strong, but I have been dealing with this issue for > > 11 > > > > years. Every time I do my son's laundry I am reminded of my son's > > condition > > > > and I pray over it cause I know how much it hurts and shames him. You > > don't > > > > know if there is a similar situation with the any one of your boys. > Not > > all > > > > parents talk about it because your child will beg you not too. > > > > > > > > Cmdr. Kelly > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Bob Simons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 1:35 AM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: [RR] Spank'n the sassy boy.. > > > > > > > > > > > > It might be wet shoes this time and no life preserver the next. I had > 2 > > boys > > > > think that life preservers weren't necessary and cumbersome. I made > them > > get > > > > out and walk halfway around the lake to get back to camp. They were > mad > > at > > > > me but I don't want dead bodies on my outings. > > > > I do know of a man who died from coral poisioning from not wearing > shoes > > > > while walking on coral. You never know! > > > > Sure its extreme thinking but disobedience has to start and stop > > somewhere. > > > > I think that his grandfather had some wisdom at least more than some > > kid. > > > > Thats where respect comes in. My Dad taught me respect when I said > > something > > > > that was disrespectful. I hope that I can teach my boys the same thing > > but > > > > that seems to be a hard job because of what a lot of adults are > > preaching. > > > > "Question Authority" is unscriptural. Its black & white to me -not > even > > > > grey. The only possible exception would be what we already talked > about > > > > concerning the gospel, a higher authority. > > > > My true story about my own son is just one example of disobedience > that > > > > could have been deadly. I'm not one of those who believes in avoiding > > any > > > > kind of fun because it might be dangerous but I also think good > > judgement > > > > can save an outing from going bad. > > > > > > > > I had an incident in Rangers where a boy wet himself because he wasn't > > > > allowed to leave the room and he didn't go at the beginning when > > everyone > > > > else did. The Dad was irate at the incident but my question was to him > > "Why > > > > weren't you in there helping the commander so that someone could have > > stayed > > > > in the room with the rest of the boys." He said he was busy...too busy > > to be > > > > there when his son needed him..I guess. > > > > The Commander was running it all alone. > > > > Passing the blame is all to common place, these days. > > > > Bob Simons > > > > > > > > For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, > > > > "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give > > > > you hope and a future. Jer. 29:11 > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would rather bruise a boys backside than have to explain why their > son > > is > > > > dead. I'm sure you all know what I mean if you think for a minute of > > the > > > > many > > > > dangers on a campout. I have seen kids disobey and had some close > calls > > > > including my own sons. A coffin doesn't give you a second chance to do > > what > > > > God tells you to do. OBEY. I have some devotions about this very > > > > thing-anyone want to hear one? Bob Simons > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I didn't realize that not putting on wet shoes would kill a boy. > > > > > > > > Let's hear the devotion. > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - JENKENS & GILCHRIST E-MAIL CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE - > > > > This transmission may be: (1) subject to the Attorney-Client > Privilege, > > (2) > > > > an attorney work product, or (3) strictly confidential. 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