Faith is one thing-I am there to build their faith in the true and living
God and His Son Jesus. No beating around the bush. All else will burn.
That includes their beliefs in moral issues such as killing and war.
Ganhdi may have never harmed a hair on anyones body but if he didn't receive
Jesus hes still bound for hell.
Thats were the rubber meets the road for me and should be for any born-
again Christian. I'm called a Christian because I believe in Christ. Not all
"Christians" can say that. I've met them believe me.
I try not to major on the minors.
I believe in the full gospel of Jesus Christ but that doesn't mean that I
may have interpreted the whole Bible the same as another full gospel
believing born-again does. Theres bound to be some differences because we're
not all the same.
I can't help it that I'm always right, though!  ;^)
Bob Simons

For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD,
"plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give
you hope and a future. Jer. 29:11
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From: "Smelly'ole Soggy Socks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 5:56 PM
Subject: [RR] *Respect vs Agreement-


>
> Last night,
>
> Cdr.Jen shared that at a BSA board of review,
> a Scout going for the final rank before Eagle
> shared that when he turns 18 he will register
> as a CO with reguard to Military service.
>
> 9-11-01 ect.
>
> Here we are in a clear war for freedom over terror,
> and a young man shares that his ethics are such that
> he cannot in conscience serve the US Armed forces.
>
> They pressed him about this decision, and about his "duty"
> to Country and to God..
>
> The young man according to Cdr.Jen laid out a compelling
> argurement that I have rarely heard in RR circles.. (outside
> of MPJ's excellent insight<g>)
>
> The Scout told of his love of this country, and of the heroisum
> of it's common people. He could never speak against America..
> This young man of 17 belives that God would not have him
> act as an agent to harm another human. His "ethics" of
> Christian faith tell him to serve as a medic, a humanitarian
> relief worker, but not a soldier,sailor or marine.
>
> He spoke of duty to his family, and what the Eagle rank
> means to them and to him, and it's worth to others.. His
> ideals of patriotisum are found in building this country
> for the better, acting fair and just...
>
> All this seemed to be his Idea of what BSA had told him was
> his right as an American and that service in other forms could
> equal his duty to country if his country called on him for service.
>
> So.. when I hear that RR Training outdoors is somehow linked to
> preparedness for the future, I wonder if in "our" rush to claim
> the high moral ground, do we also claim the ethics shared by this
> 17 year old?  Can we endorse war as good politics and reserve respect
> for those who hear a different word?
>
> In Scouting the last word of the "law" holds that a scout is reverent,
> and faithfull in his religious duties- (In God we trust)...
>
> What I am asking Royal Rangers is do we hold such values that allow
> us to respect others of different faiths? Can we do so, and then
> say that for reasons of conscience we *respect but do not agree?
>
>
> =====
> *High MORALE is the Index of effective Leadership.
> --------------********+********--------------------
> Morale raises belief of the Leader in the follower,
> of the follower in the Leader, of each in themself,
> and both in the .....cause!
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