--- Ken Komoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I grow so weary of thus stuff...

I've been trying to understand the concept of "unity" with
reguard to valueing difference of opinion,. When you say you 
grow weary "of this stuff"  is this in reference a on-going 
theam you read?<G>

I'd like to know if that "theam" is non-Royal Ranger.

> 
> When has anyone on this list said he/she did not respect another faith?

Good debate's stick to larger issues than that.. The result of
"respect" is to understand we differ on a leval and agree to work
togather in spite of our profound conscience objection.

> We may seriously disagree, but disrespect?  And we should attempt to
> evangelize them.  Is that your point?

*I'll completely open myself to Ranger fury<G>

The greatest reason to with-hold fellowship with the Boy Scouts
is to preserve un-hindered evangelistic opportunities and preserve
the four red points as the foundation to the RR social order.

*Program vs *Ministry-

In the BSA there is a strong LDS presence, but there is also some
opportunities for Christian influence that Royal Rangers could provide.
If we cannot work with Baptist,Community Churches and other faiths
without compromiseing AoG doctrine, then we will never join forces..

*I beleve, RR leaders and other brothers of kindred faith could match LDS 
or even displace their influence, and "*Save" BSA.. I call this-

*Building a bridge..

I've investigated, and found the foundations are laid allready
for AoG involvement in BSA. You may not desire this, but on the menue
of options, it does provide an additional resource and opportunities
for the boys of your church. If your church has lost it's vision for
RR then BSA could fill in as a off-shoot to provide it's values in
a community setting, comebineing small pockets of boys into larger
groups for activities and also supporting the boy to be involved in 
his individual church youth group.


  That we should not evangelize
> them out of respect for their different faith?  Where happens to their
> soul if we simply let them walk away?

Mayby we don't have to nail down the boy, but just lead him to
the next clear choice he must make. Mayby leadership points to
the way and the light.. and the boy follows through..

> 
> I'm also sorry to disagree on the worth of the opinions of a 17 year
> old.
> They are nice to hear and may even be admirable, but he is still only
> 17.
> To ascribe more value to his naive opinions than the opinions of many
> wise and experienced adults is folly...

Wow-!!  
*I think I need a jelly do-nut to think <G>

-=A=-


> 
> At 04:56 PM 12/11/2001 -0800, Smelly'ole Soggy Socks wrote:
> >So.. when I hear that RR Training outdoors is somehow linked to
> >preparedness for the future, I wonder if in "our" rush to claim
> >the high moral ground, do we also claim the ethics shared by this
> >17 year old?  Can we endorse war as good politics and reserve respect
> >for those who hear a different word?
> >
> >In Scouting the last word of the "law" holds that a scout is reverent,
> >and faithfull in his religious duties- (In God we trust)...
> >
> >What I am asking Royal Rangers is do we hold such values that allow
> >us to respect others of different faiths? Can we do so, and then
> >say that for reasons of conscience we *respect but do not agree?
> 
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> Kenneth Komoto                        mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Office of the Registrar       Phone: (530)752-7197
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