> Considering the expense of scouting that you outlined briefly, what is
> it
> about scouts that will cause a boy (and his parents) to spend that kind
> of
> money
<snip!>
*I've done both RR and now, BSA for 5 years..
I have found Scouting to NOT in any way be "inexspensive" tho it
is "affordible" for all who want to be there. You slowly catch the
fire...
Let me start to ask back.. what's the "cost" to develop Character?
Many people are willing to chip in for their kids College Tuition.
I work where I do so that *perhaps.. my son Josh can attend a
excellent School and live in the dorm like a yuppie<G>
For that "dream" *I'm willing to make the investment..and it's a
fair streach! *But a friend calls Scouting "Character Insurance"
He figures that Scouting is going to be a core link to his sons,
and their choices in life.. *He wants good stuff to happen.
*For many-many "money" is for something else.. and yes families
judge the outcome to "value" the "worth" of an experiance..
Scout boys and Ranger boys are basicly the same..
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Scouts tries HARD to walk the line with affordible adventure.
...still, some of my Royal Ranger friends could not hack T328
because of the "price" asked at the outset. *I regreted that,
but we all have to choose what we will *invest in..
*There are ways to make it work out....*Honestly-
For the boys, there
is funds availble to attend Summer camp ($180.00) by requesting
a grant from the council.. and we do hold fundraisers each year to
bring that fee down to $100 for the week.. for all who work the
fundraiser (Hard work By the way)
I'd guess to build a Scout.. a Parent might easily face $300
a year in uniforms and fees, and more for these high Adventure trips.
"Sea base" came in at $1200.00 per Scout and we worked the fund raiser's
to get that down to $600.. The National "Jambo" was $2,000 plus 3
sets of uniforms, luggage and additional gear! A week at Philmont
might be $600 to $1,000...
There is a Uniform bank in the area, *I wear a shirt I got at the
Goodwill<G> and some salvaged shorts from a former Scouter.. I'm
thinking of the BSA training called "Woodbadge" and it is $200 plus
2 uniforms, simular to the Nat'l Academy... "thinking$$$$$" <G>
But as a "Scouter Dad" I buy all my own gas and pay for food and
fees for every camp, just like the Scout. IN addition to all this,
is the Yuppie gortex rain gear, REI tent and zero degree bag...
Josh runs a Jansport internal frame pack, and a kelty external frame
pack as a "spare"... "Hot Chilies" Polypro underwear,Patigonia fleese,
and Titainium cook set<G> He keeps his pack ready, spare batteries on
top and nalgyne bottles that fit a REI water filtration unit...
*You know.. all piled on his bedroom floor<GRIN!>
-=a=-
>
> Could it be that old value proposition? They perceive scouting is
> "worth"
> the investment and Rangers isn't?
>
> Could it be that since Rangers is run by the church as a ministry of the
>
> church that the parents perceive it is something other than scouting;
> namely, a place to park the boys while mom and dad go into bible study
> (or
> out to dinner)? Read babysitting.
>
> One problem facing many outposts (I presume) is what to do with
> visitors.
> How many times have you have families that pop in on Wednesday, and
> stick
> Junior in your outpost? What do you do with him? I suspect that such
> visitors to a boy scout troop are there to decide whether to join or not
> -
> am I right?
>
> Kelvin, soon to be "Levi" at the Spring trace, Pier
>
> > --- Chuck Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I know what the LTC says about why we have and wear uniforms. But I
> > would pose to you: why do (or do NOT) your boys wear a uniform?
>
> > Howdy- .02!
> >
> > Outpost 207 had a very good showing of Uniformed boys,
> > because the Church partly funded them and a former Commander
> > took it upon himself to sew basic patches on the new shirts.
> >
> > In time we had a reserve of Uniforms, so that for $5 I'd
> > could get a boy into a used Uniform. We also subsidised Handbooks,
> sold
> > at $2.. and the Church funded the awards.
> >
> > What seemed troubleing to me was that, Handbooks were constantly
> > lost and replaced... Pins lost and replaced and in time the OP
> > began to adopt a "welfare mentality" of not careing too much about
> wear
> > a *correct Uniform.
> >
> > The Commanders did their best, but sometimes even they would
> > come in Jeans and a shirt.. There may a deeper reason than what
> > I know.. and that is, Busy people who work sometimes have to grab
> > a sweaty shirt and go.. and the RRanger Uniform has far too many
> > pins, insignias and clasps to "manage"
> >
> > My *Scouter uniform is all "patch" and can be washed, tumble dryed
> and
> > except for name tag it's "barb free"..<G>
> >
> > *However- T328 does not keep extra anything in stock.
> > I'll show you some pictures shortly, and everyone is in Uniform<G>
> >
> > It looks like a sea of green shorts and skinny knees!<G>
> >
> > Scout Uniforms are EXSPENSIVE! *shirts- $25US Shorts-$34 Socks $5
> Long
> > Pants $45!!
> >
> > The Red Wool jackets they wear.. $95US! Scoutmaster hat? $90!
> >
> > Handbooks are $7US and you have to go to Downtown Portland to a
> > Scout Shop to buy'em on your time...
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > of the follower in the Leader, of each in themself,
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