I agree with most of what you have said but it does do good to talk these
things over.  NTC the new program has had Knotty removed from it.  That
is one step in the right direction.  That mainly came from a great outcry
from rangernet being many of us were not alone in our thinking that
humilation even in a retronegative aspect is not the right method of
teaching how not to treat boys.  

As far as Rangenet goes.  I have met some of the neatest guys through
this net.  I enjoy reading it every day.  Some of the posting is just
like the stuff in the newspaper.  I just pass over what I am not
interested in.  Rangernet doesn't need my seal of approval on everything
that goes past the screen.  If  I am not interested in it ... back away
from the fire get a cup of coffee and come back in a few minutes and it
will be something different.  Rangernet is alot like us.  We have our
good points our bad points and sometimes no point.  

The post about A#1 getting snake bit  and croaking off in the middle of
winter had me wondering if it really happend from the git go.  Just as
the two kidneys for sale.  A lot of what I see on the screen is taken
with a grain of salt until it is verified.  I will admit it had me
concerned.... many skits do this as well.  We just took it tooooooo
seriously.  

I appreciate all of you.  Even the antics.  

Mark Jones


On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 21:47:35 -0600 Jonathan Trower
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> At 07:52 PM 2/25/2002 -0600, Marks Royal Rangers wrote:
> >All,
> >
> >I have been watching the postings on Rangernet for quite some time 
> and
> >have been wondering. What is the purpose of this list? It seems 
> like
> >they do not support or encourage commanders with Royal Ranger 
> Outposts.
> >Some are constantly tearing others down. The subjects repeat 
> themselves
> >constantly and rarely does anyone see new and better ideas.
> 
> Some see RangerNet as a type of cyber campfire, where the commanders 
> gather 
> together after the boys are down for the night. Around that campfire 
> they 
> exchange stories, jokes, remembrances, prayer requests and 
> testimonies, and 
> tips about doing a better job in the Rangers ministry.
> 
> If RangerNet would stick to this ideal, things would be great. But 
> too 
> often folks on RangerNet forget that the boys are not necessarily 
> asleep in 
> their tents (Rangers may be lurking on RangerNet listening to their 
> 
> commanders). Or the arguments get so loud that they would wake up 
> the boys 
> if they were asleep.
> 
> Royal Rangers is a great ministry. I've been in it since 1969, and 
> during 
> that time have forged many life-long friendships. I admire many of 
> the 
> folks on RangerNet, as they have certainly contributed much to the 
> campfire 
> and the discussions over the years. While I haven't met many of the 
> folks 
> on RangerNet, I'd like to think that I have forged some friendships 
> through 
> this campfire too. And I value the opportunity to exchange ideas, 
> ask 
> questions, and to learn from those who have had more experience than 
> I have 
> had in various areas of this ministry.
> 
> But there have been times that I have left this campfire for months 
> at a 
> time because too often the discussion strays too far from Royal 
> Rangers, 
> and as you correctly pointed out, the same subjects are repeated over 
> and 
> over. Some of the topics that are raised can be "solved" on 
> RangerNet, but 
> others can't. For those, there is a more appropriate forum for 
> change -- 
> through your district and regional leadership, and through talking 
> with the 
> national leadership when they are in your district or region. In my 
> 
> opinion, RangerNet is not the appropriate place for arguing, for 
> example, 
> about national policies because the national leadership is not 
> around this 
> campfire. Nothing can be solved about women in Rangers or NTC or 
> many of 
> the other repetitive subjects that come up on RangerNet.
> 
> When I do return to the campfire after an absence, I do so in hopes 
> that 
> things have changed. Unfortunately, I'm always disappointed.
> 
> 
> >I certainly hope this list does not contain any Rangers (boys or 
> girls)
> >from around the world because what I have seen does not represent a 
> good
> >example of how Rangers should be.
> 
> My son used to be a subscriber to this list. I had him unsubscribe. 
> Too 
> much was posted here that he did not need to see. Even though he is 
> now 17, 
> he still doesn't need to see the way some Royal Rangers leaders 
> behave 
> themselves in this forum. I wish that were not true, as RangerNet 
> could be 
> a valuable training tool to help prepare him to assume his position 
> of 
> leadership in the outpost when he turns 18 a little later this 
> spring.
> 
> 
> >Does anyone else want to make RangerNet a list that can actually 
> help
> >someone become a better commander? A list that would actually 
> benefit
> >leaders?
> 
> That was the promise of RangerNet that Duane addressed in one of his 
> 
> messages today. With the growth of the Internet e-mail lists like 
> this one, 
> and web sites like the various district sites and RangerDJ's site, 
> are 
> great ways to share ideas and resources. I for one add my vote to 
> yours 
> that RangerNet be kept positive and uplifting.
> 
> As the footer on all RangerNet messages states: "Let the Golden Rule 
> be 
> your daily rule."
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Mark Oliver
> >North Texas District
> >
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> 
> -------------------------------------------
> Jonathan Trower
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