Your just a little before your time....

I have now two moms of our Rangers that serve as Outpost Council
Procurement and Straight Arrow Commander. Both are doing a fantastic job.
 This past weekend we had a BB gun campout where we had 35 total 13
leaders and 22 boys.  Both Ranger Mom's were at the BB Gun campout
working in the Ranks helping tons!  They did sleep in a motor
home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   That is fine and good.  I have a time or two been
found sleeping in my pull camper at a few campouts.  As I see it it is no
different than sleeping in a car/truck/station wagon...etc.  One thing we
all had a great time and only two new rules,  no wizing in public and
leave the motor home alone.  

Just a matter of time.  A#1  we will see both men and woman serving in RR
in all capacities with very few restrictions.  Only makes good sense.  

Mark Jones


On Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:28:22 -0700 (PDT) EagleDad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> 
> --- Edward Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ummm....  I had no problem identifying gender, nor do I have 
> > any problem at all with the uniform.  Having been a BUckaroo
> > commander, and knowing many others, most of the women commanders
> > were wearing red shirts and jeans already.
> 
> The gender issue has never been a "problem" at the local level..
> and it is not a problem for the boys...
> 
> Women freely come to serve boys as leaders. Allways at the local
> level they are welcome, and given full respect. They often are the
> helpmates of a Commander, and have sons in the program.
> 
> So called "National Policy" a fabrication of upper management being 
> 
> stuck between a rock and a "Hard" place, of their own makeing.
> 
> As with any diplomatic solution, "official policy" is debated behind 
> 
> closed doors, and perhaps run up the "flag pole" on occasion, to 
> test 
> it's effects to draw *Fire..
> 
> I don't beleve this has anything to do with effective Leadership,
> and has everything to do with man made *Domination, as it just 
> seems
> contrived.
> 
> The test for effective leadership is the resultant High "Morale" 
> that
> follows success and freedom, as in Victory over obsticals..
> since "morale" is the emotional force that gives drive to group 
> action.
> 
> You can convince yourself that the sticking point is the uniform or
> some other consideration, but the real issue is justice/ fairness
> and respect to all, by includeing every "Adult leader" in all 
> training
> and positions of service to the Lord, and the boys.
> 
> *If there are reasons for gender policies, I sincerly hope they are
> clearly published and each individual given resources to have them
> explained to their full satisfaction.
> 
> Doc
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > > "Jose F. Rodriguez" wrote:
> > > 
> > > Yesterday I went to the Official RR website and saw a glimps of 
> the
> > uniform
> > > that the female (and probably the male) Ranger Kids commanders 
> are
> > going to
> > > wear.  For those of you who don't know what I'm talking about go 
> to
> > this page:
> > > http://www.royalrangers.ag.org/royal-rangers/applications.cfm 
> and
> > click on
> > > "Page 1: General Information" (you of course need an Acrobat 
> Reader to
> > view
> > > them).  Once your one the first page of the All New Transition
> > Brochure look
> > > closely at the picture on the lower left which should show a 
> group of
> > Five
> > > male commanders and two female commanders in the front.  The 
> female
> > commander
> > > on the left is apparently wearing the new uniforms that Ranger 
> Kids
> > commanders
> > > will wear.  Apparently the women and men will be wearing 
> uni-sex
> > uniforms
> > > instead of a separate female and male uniform.  As you can see 
> in the
> > picture
> > > female commanders in that age group will be able to wear pants 
> also. 
> > I have
> > > nothing against women wearing pants but that uniform looks so
> > "unfeminine" on
> > > the lady in that picture.  When I first saw the picture I 
> thought to
> > myself
> > > "is that a boy or woman?" I'm not trying to make fun of the lady 
> in
> > the
> > > photograph by the way, but just something doesn't look right 
> about the
> > > uniform.  I was wondering if anybody else sees what I'm trying 
> to say.
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> of the follower in the Leader, of each in themself,
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