I have to agree with you.  If I had a Commander like that in our Outpost, he
would not last to long.  He would be removed and left to help.  I hope he is
not the only Commander in that Outpost.  Thanks much. Lord Bless

Chuck

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Jonathan & Dawnya
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:27 AM
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Subject: Re: [RR] *What would you do- "I thought"


> I invested a LOT of time and effort in the old Outpost,
> and it's taken me 5 years to return to where I *Thought I
> had left..
>
> This time I'm bringing 35 boys.. that will not fail.
>
> .. so I THINK I have some say in the way things ought to be.

    You only have a say if the established leadership says you do.  Why did
you leave 5 years ago?  And better yet, why did you return?  35 boys can
fail.  We can fail.  Only God does not fail.


>  My Boys need to advance, and the Older boys don't seem interested in
> motivateing these younger boys to get that camp squared away..We
> make excellent suggestion to them.. and it goes in one ear and out the
> other, like they do not listen..

    All boys need to advance, and not all older boys want to lead ... it's a
fact of life - some are shepherds and some are sheep.

> *So yes.. I'll admit I contrived that showdown.. and Yes, I
> knew those words were manipulative. *That's the way it is..
> and it worked well. *Did you see how they turned too?

    Sounds to me like you've got a "Look what I can do" attitude.  How does
this help the boys?  You are scheming and planning a "showdown" with a boy
... TO MAKE YOURSELF LOOK GOOD.  I hate to preach at you, but that's not at
all Christ-like.  Sounds more like Judas to me.

> I'm here and the boys will get used to me. I'm loud and in their
> faces. They don't have to like me, and i expect if they want to
> leave the Outpost they will before me. So I have a investment in
> the future beyond these older "GMA" boys.

    Our goal is to Reach, Teach, and KEEP boys for Christ.  Sounds to me
like you want to push some boys out of the outpost.  How does that fit with
the goal of Royal Rangers?

    This situation sounds bad from the get go, and it sounds to me like a
leader needs to be counseled by the pastor.  If that doesn't work, then the
leader needs to be removed from his position.

    Go ahead and flame away, if that's what you want.  But I've spoken my 2
cents.


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Jonathan Conti
NC Dist. Health/Safety Ofcr.
Senior Commander
Rocky Mount, NC
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