Well now comes my husbands opinion, and I even agree with some of it<VBG>. We both think that often once a child is diagnosed, ADD/ADHD that parents use it as an excuse to become disciplined lazy, "it's just the way he is, I can't change it." HOOEY!
Now on the lighter side and in agreement with Bob below, Chris says "Camping with ADD kids is FUN! You have any chores, Jeremy we need some fire wood. WOOSH! It's done. Need your tents set up? Jeremy have at it. WOOSH! It's done. While every other OP's boys are looking at their tents and trying to figure them out your sittin' back having a sip of something cool, looking at your "ready" camping area and deciding what to do next." Seriously, a lot of it is diet, prayer, discipline. We went through years with Joel that were bad, Joel was about to be expelled from school, last year we finally asked our doctor for help he said ADD. We said can you send us to anyone who will use alternatives to the "R" word. He said NOPE. We finally found someone to work with us and we are very happy. It's not perfect, but nothing has been since the garden. Kelly >From: "Bob Simons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [RR] ADD, Chemical Imbalances, and The Rod. >Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 00:44:22 -0700 > >Wow- I have 2 boys that are ADD but they excel in many other areas. God >makes no mistakes and it is convient to put blame on parents but it is not >true. Sorry, You're way off on this one Clint. >I find that those boys who can't sit still in a classroom setting excel on >campouts and when there is any real work to be done, while the "normal" boy >just sits and watches. >BTW I work with those boys in Rangers and know that judgeing their homelife >solves nothing. Yes some are from bad homesettings but there are no hard & >fast rules. I know of one boy in my patrol who comes from a drug abuse home >and he is not ADD. >Bob Simons > >For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, >"plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give >you hope and a future. Jer. 29:11 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jeff & Ellrena Ortner > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ebible.org > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:00 PM > Subject: Re: [RR] ADD, Chemical Imbalances, and The Rod. > > > clint grant wrote > I have formulated my own theory on the matter, based upon four things: >my limited knowledge of the subject, > > <>< I would have to agree with that > > Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that ADD could either be a >result of chemical imbalance due to the lack of proper discipline in the >home, or not a chemical imbalance at all, just poor behavior from not >raising kids right. This is the only explanation and conclusion that I can >draw from the evidence and the only one I have found that is supported by >God's Word. > > This is the biggest bunch of crock that I ever heard > My son has this problem and he receives much love, patience, and >understanding, and discipline. I have even been told that I have been to >strict on him before. Being apart of pastors home he has been critiqued, >condemned, and criticized by many that don't understand. He has been in >Royal Rangers all his life and what I have read tonight takes the cake on >total condemnation towards me personally and my family. Plus many involved >with rangers and 100's of pastors that their children are ADD > Jeffery Ortner, now 17 years old, He has 28 merits and 1st class Trail >Ranger ranking makes the A-B HONOR Roll, and Plays Varsity football. Yes he >is slow in many areas but, I am sure that many know him at Sarge Sellers >camp and that they see him as a loving responsive young man. I have gone to >every commander that has worked with him and told them to don't give >special options, but make him do the work and earn those merits. > > If anyone wants to talk ADD, then I say work in that department of a >school for 10 years that deals with this type of children before you bring >this type of judgement, or better yet have your own child be ADD and just >see how you handle it. > This is the same type of false concept thinking that was brought >down the pike about 30 years ago with those that had illegitimate children. >Which I know of a few teachers, Ranger fathers, pastors, in high places. >Are we going to throw them in the pile too. > This reminds me of about 15 years ago those in the Charismatic >movement that use to think if a Christian Brother was sick or had something >going wrong in his life. He must be in sin and needs to repent. > > You know what should have been posted on this email instead of this >trash? > <<<> HOW TO UNDERSTAND AND DEAL WITH THOSE BOYS THAT HAVE ADD <<<> or >maybe a leadership talk on patience, love, and understanding the problem >child. > > I hope my wife doesn't see this email that was sent to me, she will >explode & probably go all the way up to our District Commander who his >wife, is a very personal friend of hers. > > As a pioneer pastor, teacher, and Royal Ranger leader for 20 years, I >hope that many of you will look at your boys as a father figure in this >cruel world, that they see no hope in the future. and pray that you make >the difference towards them that cannot be normal, or feel like they can't >succeed, and are pushed aside because they are different (than my kid). >and build a Outpost that shows camaraderie, teamwork and belonging to a >child that can't always function as others. Your touch, love, and patience >may make the difference towards a lost boys soul. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx _______ Let the Golden Rule be your daily rule. Please pray for your list sponsor: http://eBible.org/mpj/ To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://rangernet.org/subscribe.htm http://rangernet.org
