At 08:59 AM 1/08/2003 -0500, jened wrote:
Again you are proven wrong by statistics and not some happy thought that more guns = more deaths.

Really. Let's see...



FACTS (STATISTICS) (Real information) from below site:
http://www.ssaa.org.au/gunleg.html

Ah yes - the sporting shooters association of australia. The little brother to the NRA in america.
In fact it was only a couple of years ago that your people came over to help our people keep the liberals at bay :-)


Taught them how to hash statistics, tell lies and make it possible for innocent people to be murdered with guns. Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy - that's brotherhood for you.

Statistics like gun related deaths [and unemployment, inflation etc] become relevant when viewed as trends.
If you look at the figures from the Institute of Criminology [that I cited on the 23rd July] you'll find a steady decline in gun related deaths in Australia:


http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/facts/2002/fig09.html

This continues past the initiation of the gun-buy-back program.

The SSAA figures only speak to 1997, when the buy-back was initiated.
Fortunately, the number of gun related deaths are falling steadily.

There is a clearly demonstrated link between number of guns in circulation and gun related deaths.
Same as with cars. More cars on the road = more car related deaths.
Same as with aeroplanes. More planes in the sky = more plane related deaths.


It's just the the USA has orders of magnitude more guns in circulation per head of population than any other western country (eg: Europe, Australia, New Zealand).

The USA has 30 times the number of gun related deaths than does Australia on a per capita basis.

Can't argue with that. The bodies have been counted.

Victor.



The Australian Bureau of Statistics shows us that, over the fifteen years
between 1980 and 1995 gun deaths have dropped by 46% while, over the same
period, gun ownership has soared. Source: The Australian 27/2/97 and SSAA ILA
Report April 1997

Only 1.3% of firearm deaths in Australia are from "assault rifles".
Source: Australian Bureau of Statistics, Firearms deaths in Australia 1980-
1995, ABS Cat No. 4397.0.

In 1915 there were 1.8 murders per 100,000 population in Australia Firearms
were used in 28.6% In 1993 there were 1.8 murders per 100,000 Firearms were
used in 19.6% of murders Source: Australian Institute of Criminology.

Gun deaths in 1980 [including suicide and accident] 4.8 per 100,000
Gun deaths in 1995 2.6 per 100,000
In 1995 suicides accounted for 78% of all gun deaths
Source: Australian Bureau of Statistics

"The figures clearly show that the absolute numbers of deaths, and the rate
of deaths, had been steadily declining before Port Arthur," ..... "Also the
pattern of gun deaths declined right across the board, from suicides to
homicides and accidents." .... "...the nationwide analysis found that gun-
related deaths actually decreased from 4.8 deaths per 100,000 in 1980-2 to
2.6 deaths in 1995."
Source: Australian Bureau of Statistics spokesman, Mr David Povah, 'The
Australian' of 27/2/97.



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