I doubt we're getting the real story from the media.  From what I hear, the
majority of the Iraqi people support us.  I do think there needs to be a
reasonable exit strategy.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ace Numer- Uno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [RR] Why might there be more gun related deaths? Let's
wonder...


>
> Bush ordered a harder line with reguard to the treatment of
> Iraq resistance.. He did that because we choose to go it alone..
>
> (No UN assistance) and the US Media needed some good news on
> the progression of the WAR.
>
> *I noted.. AND SO DID MY SON GME#3911
> US Troops are begining to sound very much like Vietnam vets!
>
> *Let's cut our loses now and pull out of Iraq!
>
> -=A#1=-
>
>
> --- Victor Zalakos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ahhh, I didn't know that.
> > In all of the television footage we saw in Australia, all we saw were
> > missiles going in and buildings coming down.
> >
> > Victor.
> >
> >
> > At 03:21 PM 2/08/2003 +0000, Paul Davis wrote:
> >
> > >Considering they were told to come out and surender and didn't and
> > started
> > >shooting instead.  I don't think it was "cold blooded murder".
> > >
> > >I thought this was a Ranger's idea sharing area not some debate over
> > the
> > >gun issue.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Paul
> > >
> > > >From: Victor Zalakos
> > > >To:
> > > >Subject: [RR] Why might there be more gun related deaths? Let's
> > wonder...
> > > >Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 06:46:11 +1000
> > > >
> > > >At 06:33 AM 2/08/2003 +1000, The Larrikin wrote:
> > > >>Check out the Melbourne Age for a start.
> > > >>I suppose the headlines of last month did not happen when it stated
> > > >>that 2 crime figure
> > > >>were gun down at a football match. And the murder of another man a
> > > >>week later.
> > > >>I will admit I did get the figures wrong, it's now 27, with the
> > > >>murder of a man in Sydney
> > > >>last night.
> > > >
> > > >Adrian has brought up some [uncited] isolated incidents of homicides
> > > >that have occoured lately. Whilst it is true that statistics like
> > > >gun related deaths [and unemployment, inflation etc] become relevant
> > > >only when viewed as trends, it may be of value to speculate on why
> > > >there seems to have been a flurry of gun related murders lately.
> > > >
> > > >It wouldn't have anything to do with the santioning of murder by the
> > > >heads of the United Kingdom, Australia and the UNited States would
> > > >it?
> > > >
> > > >Q: How do you deal with a problem Mr Bush?
> > > >A: Shoot it down.
> > > >
> > > >Q: How do you bring people to justice Mr Howard?
> > > >A: Shoot them down.
> > > >
> > > >Q: How do you give a fair go Mr Blair?
> > > >A: Shoot first, look for bodies later.
> > > >
> > > >I am referring of course to the murder of the sons of Saddam
> > > >Hussain. Images of their murder blazened on television and their
> > > >bodies paraded before the masses.
> > > >With modelling like that from our elected officials, how can two-bit
> > > >tommy on the street understand the value of human life?
> > > >
> > > >He can't of course.
> > > >
> > > >Regardless of the crimes of these two men, murdering them in cold
> > > >blood is wrong.
> > > >It is evil and it is wrong.
> > > >
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