Re: [RR] Why might there be more gun related deaths? Let's wonder...

[M&M Archer]

I believe the media is giving us the real story..... But it is so mixed in with the sensationalism of  the protesters that the real story is hard to pick out. My local TV station showed 5 minutes of footage about protests in the US and Iraq (they emphasized a minority group) but gave a 5 second snippet stating that the majority of people in the US and Iraq support the removal of Saddam from power. The truth is there, it's just hard to find. It is that kind of lopsided media coverage that made Vietnam what it was. We forget that protest was not allowed in the prewar Iraq. Prewar protesters are buried in mass graves ... something the media has not been very good at reporting on ... we should focus on the human attrocities commited not the media agenda of WMD. I do believe they are working on an exit strategy ... they are training Iraqi troops to take over when we leave ... our job here in the US is to pray for our troops and support them. I do not believe the Iraqi people really know what they want right now. The majority despised Saddam but lacked the power to do anything about it. They help and support our troops but at the same time do not really like the continued US presence because they see us as infidels ... we are the "great satan" to them. Islam is a religion at war with itself and all around them. They are kind of like the children of Israel after Moses lead them out of slavery. They look back, with fondness,  at the leeks and onions but do not remember the slavery they were in. There is a spiritual battle going on in this world ... let's not get distracted with all the media hype and occuring events ... we need to keep our eyes on God and continually pray for this sick world.   Mike Archer   ----- Original Message ----- From: CmdrPier To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [RR] Why might there be more gun related deaths? Let's wonder... I doubt we're getting the real story from the media.  From what I hear, the majority of the Iraqi people support us.  I do think there needs to be a reasonable exit strategy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ace Numer- Uno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [RR] Why might there be more gun related deaths? Let's wonder... > > Bush ordered a harder line with reguard to the treatment of > Iraq resistance.. He did that because we choose to go it alone.. > > (No UN assistance) and the US Media needed some good news on > the progression of the WAR. > > *I noted.. AND SO DID MY SON GME#3911 > US Troops are begining to sound very much like Vietnam vets! > > *Let's cut our loses now and pull out of Iraq! > > -=A#1=- > > > --- Victor Zalakos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ahhh, I didn't know that. > > In all of the television footage we saw in Australia, all we saw were > > missiles going in and buildings coming down. > > > > Victor. > > > > > > At 03:21 PM 2/08/2003 +0000, Paul Davis wrote: > > > > >Considering they were told to come out and surender and didn't and > > started > > >shooting instead.  I don't think it was "cold blooded murder". > > > > > >I thought this was a Ranger's idea sharing area not some debate over > > the > > >gun issue. > > > > > > > > > > > >Paul > > > > > > >From: Victor Zalakos > > > >To: > > > >Subject: [RR] Why might there be more gun related deaths? Let's > > wonder... > > > >Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 06:46:11 +1000 > > > > > > > >At 06:33 AM 2/08/2003 +1000, The Larrikin wrote: > > > >>Check out the Melbourne Age for a start. > > > >>I suppose the headlines of last month did not happen when it stated > > > >>that 2 crime figure > > > >>were gun down at a football match. And the murder of another man a > > > >>week later. > > > >>I will admit I did get the figures wrong, it's now 27, with the > > > >>murder of a man in Sydney > > > >>last night. > > > > > > > >Adrian has brought up some [uncited] isolated incidents of homicides > > > >that have occoured lately. Whilst it is true that statistics like > > > >gun related deaths [and unemployment, inflation etc] become relevant > > > >only when viewed as trends, it may be of value to speculate on why > > > >there seems to have been a flurry of gun related murders lately. > > > > > > > >It wouldn't have anything to do with the santioning of murder by the > > > >heads of the United Kingdom, Australia and the UNited States would > > > >it? > > > > > > > >Q: How do you deal with a problem Mr Bush? > > > >A: Shoot it down. > > > > > > > >Q: How do you bring people to justice Mr Howard? > > > >A: Shoot them down. > > > > > > > >Q: How do you give a fair go Mr Blair? > > > >A: Shoot first, look for bodies later. > > > > > > > >I am referring of course to the murder of the sons of Saddam > > > >Hussain. Images of their murder blazened on television and their > > > >bodies paraded before the masses. > > > >With modelling like that from our elected officials, how can two-bit > > > >tommy on the street understand the value of human life? > > > > > > > >He can't of course. > > > > > > > >Regardless of the crimes of these two men, murdering them in cold > > > >blood is wrong. > > > >It is evil and it is wrong. > > > > > > > >_______ > > > > > > > > > > > >List host: http://eBible.org/mpj/ List info: > > > >http://eBible.org/rangernet/faq.htm > > > > > > > >To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >or visit http://eBible.org/subscribe.htm > > > > > > > > >---------- > > >Help STOP SPAM with <http://g.msn.com/8HMKENUS/2731??PS=>the new MSN 8 > > and > > >get 2 months FREE* _______ List host: http://eBible.org/mpj/ List info: > > > > >http://eBible.org/rangernet/faq.htm To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe > > >rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit > > http://eBible.org/subscribe.htm > > > > > ===== > *High MORALE is the Index of effective Leadership. > --------------********+********-------------------- > Morale raises belief of the Leader in the follower, > of the follower in the Leader, of each in themself, > and both in the .....cause! > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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