--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 8/13/2003 12:16:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> > I'm going to throw out a sticky ball again and be direct.
> > 
> > 
> > Royal Rangers was laid out on the table and disected up.. for
> > the pleasure of Non-Royal Ranger  authority.  Perhaps, the scope
> > of straight arrow to AST was too broad for the full development
> > of the program and facilitaion on a local level.



> > Brother  a lot  of the  changes  were  asked  for  by smaller 
> chuirchs if  
> > you review  the  new  program you will see a broad  selection  of
> merits  
> > with manuels  and lessons  plans. And  the  changes were implemented 
> not  by 
> > non  ranger but by ranger program

That's after someone got a burr under the saddle...then yaddah
yaddah-yaddah...   Cdr.Marriot picked up the broken toy. he glued
it back into  a differnt shape than is apparent at Euro-camp.

*I'm saying the old-old program wasn't broke and didn't need a
new fix.. *Just that everone lost touch with the joy of outdoor
experiances.




> > *That said..  RR started as a lead-in to a older boy program
> > that had very much the same pool to draw from as Boy Scouts.
> > 
> > Along the way, at every twist in the trail.. Royal Rangers has had to
> > justify it's mission statement with those in Ministry oversight.
> > 
> > With a distinct culture and doctrine that holds Christ at the center
> > of every decision, the success of a high adventure program has not
> > been primary.  Other trade offs have been made in the implimentation
> > of the patrol system and effective development of leadership.


> > if  christ  were not  the  center  we  would not  need rangers  as the
>  boy  scout   would  do.

*See..  you've bought the propoganda. *I'll never get you to agree.

Jesus is Christ.. and he is in the center where two or more gather in his
name.  *Not every act of this life is to be Christ centered.  We welcome
education and employment and experiance the outdoors.. *mindfull of Christ
but not to the exclusion of good hearted fellowship.



 And  if you look at the  new  program  the patrol 
> system 
> > was not  done  away. And  leadership  developement  is  still in
> exictence

"Bull-pucky on a stick."

Why would a "boy" want to be a Ranger leader?  He'd rather throw
a rock in a lake or wave a stick in the fire and say "look at me".

*That's untapped leadership!

You don't teach Leadership out of a pre-packaged sermon.
 you 'develop it by pratical experiance. You also use the talent
of the "back row" and make the job real for the boys involved.



> > *When you look at Euro-Rangers..  you see them embraceing something
> > USA Rangers traded away for a primarily evangelical agenda.  When
> > Euro Rangers visit the USA National Camp.. *They must wonder where
> > all the adventure has gone<G>


> > the  adventure is there for outposts  willing  to reach  for it and
> the  
> > powwows i have  beeninvolved  with have  always  strifed to supply the
>  boys  
> > with  adventure and  advancement

Do you build towers and ships out of poles and lashing as an event?
Does your boys cook and eat as a family?
Does the Outpost earn merits at Powwow?

...or is it more like a carnival or swap meet with a campfire
church service?


> > US Rangers is a top-down Adult led effort.. where any boy is simply
> > told what to do and not allowed to be or do his best as a Royal
> Ranger.
> 
> come  to  new york  look  at  our   rangers  of the  year I  am  always 
> 
> amazed at the  achievements  and  excellence  of these boys.

Is that where they stand in starched uniforms and snap to attention 
at your command?   We won ROY all the time and still.. the church
shut Trailblazers down.  ROY is totaly useless..

*What is of use is what happens inside a group of boys on an adventure
out of sight of "Commander"..  *You make that work and you did something
worthwhile.


 the 
> program is  as  
> good  as  the  outposts  want it to be
> 
> > Euro-Ranger leaders hold a different attitude.. one of a "scouting
> spirit"
> > where they mix in with the kids to assist them to achieve something
> and
> > gain self-confidence at a task.  *The true worth of the program for
> > them is found in what it does inside the heart, from relationships and
> > from challanges.
> > 
> > All this has not been addressed by US Royal Rangers.


> > i  think if  its  not in  your  section ask  why i dont  believe it is
> a   wide  spread  nor  fair anaysis  nationwide. get involved if your 
> area section 
> > does not  have  jltc camps  and  other  opportunitys find  out  why 
> be the  
> > spark  to start  something God  bless you in  your  endeaver to  help 
> a 
> > ranger excel in  all  areas  physically  mentally and  spirital Harry
> smith

Yea...  Shut it down<G>

*I want to be a German Royal Ranger!

Here's what you Harry don't care about..
-----------------------------------------

*Valderee- valder-ahh valder-ah Val der Hahahahaha...<G>

RR don't have to be "so heavy"  ..as in burden or effort.
It should be a joy, it should be a family activity and opportunity
for adventure.. not a 2 bit khaki-clad para-military boondoggle.

My shoes never were shiney.. I allways wore hike'n boots
and the "perfect uniform" is the one that comes off the 50 mile
hike.

I don't need a good preach'n from a fatman.. *I can find Integrity
anywhere by walking up a hill.  ..*I also susspect there is "joy" in
the Euro-Ranger camp.   I'll trade my coonhat and patch collection
for that anytime over being friends with "Bro.Big Shot"

Yup-

> > *Given the chance, I'd choose Euro-Rangers over the US version.

*Dine on the hay and spew the sticks-

-=A#1=-
> 
> 


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Morale raises belief of the Leader in the follower,
of the follower in the Leader, of each in themself,
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