Here goes:

*We start every meeting with the pledge to the USA Flag

"with liberty and justice for all"

Then into the meeting we pitch whatever popular evangelical notion
we want to pitch.  I was in a Ranger meeting the night Bill Clinton
won the election over G.Bush sr.

*The boys..  let loose a string of hate speech over that event
straight from watching the 700 club and hearing Rush Limbaugh..

I may have felt a bit like them myself, *I'll admit that..  BUT!

I began to ask the Rangers just what being a "Christian" has to do
with national politics?

They gave good answers:

1. Freedom of religion
2. Right to life
3. Gun ownership

*Then I asked what "Liberal" means, as a word..

They gave honest answers:

"yellow dog liberal"

1. Communist
2. Humanist
3. anti-christian values

Rangernet had previously discussed the power of words with reguard to
differences in our cultures..  We had also discussed why US Ranger culture
does not welcome women in service, yet they are welcome elsewhere..

*Just what are the differences?

In the USA~  *We live in a bright media bubble, that pretty much
hides our impact on the rest of the world.  In our view, waveing the
US Flag is patriotic.  Haveing the boys stand and pledge allegence is
not a big worry, likewise the Pledge to the Christian flag.

In Austrailia..  *while they seem to be just like us<G> (They have
Surfing :')   They downplay the US style of patriotisum, and for
them to say the same "Pledge to the Christian flag" as us.. might
generate snickers and chuckles<G>

*So...  It's a big wide open world.

USA Rangers reflects a AOG doctrine of "Jesus first" and anything
else is less than that call for evangelical salvation of souls.

*Big Gulp- thin ice!
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But to "minister" to others the love of Christ..

In addition to sending Missonary evangelists
We send medical people, food donations, labor and technology.

This is a "Liberal view" of the gospel.

The result is that when we address the needs of others, we work
for Jesus.  Christian service is normaly one part of a Ranger powow
alter call service..  Service to others, useing the tools found in Ranger
merits and skills.

*I brought up the subject of GAI because it was a proposal made by
President Richard Nixion to insure family values and arrest crime.

The link in the recent Rangernet discussion was one of improveing
society, not *just supporting GW Bush come hell or high water...

Thanks-
*I'm clear..

-=A#1=-

--- Eddie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can anyone show me where this relates to Rangers?  I've seen this stuff
> back and forth while ranger questions are getting backchannel answers. 
> I thought this was a ranger list?
> 
> Eddie Hicks
> www.rangerforums.com
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Victor Zalakos 
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 11:08 PM
>   Subject: Re: [RR] Guaranteed annual income
> 
> 
> 
>     Who mentioned Big Business?  Over 2/3rds of the jobs are provided by
> small businesses.  Now, you haven't addressed the constitutional issue -
> no benevolence provided, yet the document was written by Christian men
> who openly practiced faith.
> 
>   Shows what I know, I thought your founding fathers were all practising
> members of the cult of the Masons.
> 
>   Victor.
> 
> 
> 
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Morale raises belief of the Leader in the follower,
of the follower in the Leader, of each in themself,
and both in the .....cause!

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