Victor 
     I listen to you week after week and I think you like to get things 
stirred up ,
     Ltc modules are the reason RR is growing at an incredible rate now that 
the new program is out training is what separates us from mediocre.
     Where did you come up with a thought like that

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> Here's a thought, let's can the LTC.
> 
> Why should we can it?
> - how conceited are we to assume that you need to study for months on end 
> to be allowed to lead Rangers
> - how difficult is childrens ministry that we need more training than any 
> youth leader, and more than some pastors have received.
> - LTC filters out good leaders and leaves a sediment, a certain kind of 
> leader who is more interested in themselves than the children
> 
> Why should we retain it?
> - it is good to be trained
> - there are some things a ranger leader needs to know
> - it is good to show that you can earn advancements too
> 
> Proposal
> - delete LTC
> - create a number of short, intensive courses that teach specific things - 
> all of which are immediately useful
> 
> Result
> - perhaps we'll get a better balance of leader in Rangers who are more 
> interested in the welfare of the children than in pandering to their own 
> competitive nature.
> 
> Just a thought...
> Victor. 
> 
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