> [delayed - nonmember submission]
>
> I think that you may be on to something here. I recognize these tendencies
> in our kids today. I do notice also that when control is relinquished to
> the kids they must be allowed to fail. We often times pick up the slack
> and thereby exasperate them.
Yup.. "I can do it- says the boy..and we allow a few monents of
fumbleing.. then we jump right in to salvage the monent.. and re-enforce
the helplessness of the boy<G>"
Go on... good post<G>
When you allow the kids to make decisions,
> you also need to allow them to fail as well as succeed. Of course we want
> to see them succeed and lending some "encouragement" in the right direction
> is helpful, but when kids reject your "friendly advice" we need to allow
> them to reap the consequences.
*I don't back that as Gospel... as we may see that the "requirements" are
in need of changeing to a better suted need in the boys of 1999. Some of
our Ranger teaching is hard to justify....
Sometimes they may even surprise us and
> succeed in spite of our thoughts. This is the idea behind the Gold Bar
> Staff in the Outpost. Allow the boys to lead the way all the way down to
> age 9 in Pioneers. This is how the Ministry of Royal Rangers was designed
> by our Creator through His servant Johnnie Barnes. It does work. Go for
> it. That's my opinion.
> TK
>
Thanks for your Opinion!
I agree so much I tried useing the Patrol method in Pioneers and had to
tell them what to do each and every week<G> Cdr.Johnnie had some excellent
ideas that he borrowed from other groups, however the successfull
application is better suited for an older group who desire a
self-government.. Pioneers are too young<G>
Duane -=A=-
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> Subj: [RR] The TRUTH about Outpost Perfomance and *Spirit!
> Date: 5/28/99 11:48:24 AM Central Daylight Time
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>
> *I've been reading several papers by education reserchers and gleaning
> what I can about *my oputpost and what I see going on in Royal Rangers
> today..
>
> We adults are familiar with the term "burnout" but we generaly think it to
> be related to the workplace...
>
> WHAT IF.. "Burnout" had no bottom age and in fact was what your boys
> were acting out of in the meger performance of their achievement goals..
>
> How would they talk and act? Would a burned-out Ranger show disengagement
> and apathy? perhaps...thoughtlessness and aggression? "Tuneing out" or
> acting out might signal the fact the Ranger was "BURNING OUT!"
>
> In these cases the boy might just "go thru the motions" handing in
> uninspired work and spaceing out waiting for freedom to arrive...
>
> *That's the way it is sometimes with MY PERFECT OUTPOST!<G>
>
> Let's talk about the truth of burnout....see if this makes sence!
>
> The best predictor about "burn-out" is that it does NOT come from too much
> work,too little time, or too little reward or compensation.. |Rather,
> burn-out comes from powerlessness -a lack of control over what one is
> doing... *Lacking control or a sence of "Knowing what to do" breeds
> that hopeless "I give up" attitude!
>
> *What's the cure?
> =================
>
> "the key to transforming student/Ranger apathy into student/Ranger
> engagement, Mr.Kohn suggests, may be as simple as allowing
> students/Rangers to make decision about their learning.
> Alfie Kohn- Phi Delta Kappan 1998"
>
> "Those who feel more control over what happens to them rarely become Ill
> despite high levels of stress..."
>
> "Everday/meeting ought to include at least one block of time where the
> students/Rangers can decide what they will do"
>
> "Parting with power is not easy,if only because the results are less
> predictible without control"
>
> *Opinions?
>
> The Patrol meeting...
> The Outpost planning sessions...
> GOLD BAR staff meetings
> Time for Sr.Guide to become "Sr Guide" ect.
>
> Cdr.-=A=-
>
>
>
>
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