Without meaning to be rude, you are again missing the point.
Of course we are all sinners.  I don't question that.  And I
don't question our need to reach and evangelize.  What I do
question is whether or not the COMMANDER next to me believes
the same things I believe and is teaching the same Bible and
theology.  If a man is a chartered commander in a chartered
church, then I believe a number of things:
1)  he is saved;
2)  he believes in the same basic 16 points of theology as
set forth by the AoG;
3)  he's been fingerprinted and background checked.
If the chartering process no longer guarantees these three
items, then we are headed toward serious problems. (I realize
the third point is a church duty, but I included it anyway,
since a chartered church should be showing due diligence.)

As far as PK goes, I cannot look inside a man's heart, so I
would be loathe to declare that all men at PK conferences are
'true Christians.' And I don't see that PK excludes anybody.
They shouldn't.  Anyway, I wasn't picking on PK for any reason,
or FGBMF, just using them as examples of groups that do not
charter and do not require accountability.

At 02:36 PM 12/2/99 -0800, J. HOWE wrote:
>In answer to Kenneth Komotos e-mail
>
>Hey Ken, just because someone attends
>a AoG Church or Royal Rangers doesnt 
>prevent them from sinning either.
>Ken I agree that there should be guidelines,
>and rules in order to keep true to the Word.
>Chartering is a way of keeping order, and
>affirming that the same theology is kept
>across the board.
>That is one of our churches duties, but we should not be so
>insecure in our faith as to worry weather the brother
>or sister next to us is AoG, or passes the
>test of weather he is worshipping Christ Jesus in
>a standard fitting to AoG customs and regulations.
>We are all sinners in Gods eyes. Only through
>Christ are we saved, by His blood.
>I have been to many Promise Keepers Conferences
>and haven't seen any Mormons or Buddhists, or Satanists
>Worshipping their own Gods there. It was clear why
>everyone was there. It was for Christ Jesus.
>I would like to know where you have gotten your
>information on PK excepting cult members in
>its ministry. I have not seen this......
>A lot of those that attend those conferences are
>first timers, sinners, misguided souls. And our Lord
>touched they're hearts, because PK { being used as
>a tool for our Lord} opened the doors and excepted
>the sinner, showing him enlightenment, and
>forgiveness, and love. Never once faltering from
>the Word, or giving in to the misguided beliefs
>of others. Remember the Great Commandment
>{Mark 12:30-31} and the Great Commission
>{Matthew 28:19-20}.. AoG has followed PK's
>move in Christ with Honor Bound Mens
>Ministries. Royal Rangers needs to become
>bold in Christ and not be afraid to reach out
>across religious lines to spread the Word.
>Are we supposed to wait for the sinner, or
>misguided to come to us? Is that how our
>Father would have us act? Are we so insecure
>in are beliefs that we cannot go into the
>enemies camp and show love and acceptance?
>What would happen if we gave a cult member,
>or a sinner a new way of thinking. A seed would
>be planted. Isn't that something we all can do, thus
>our Lord take over from that point .
>Brother we Know what we Know, and we are good
>at keeping true as best we can to the Word.
>So lets find a way for Royal Rangers to pass on
>the Good News. PK has done it, River Churches
>are doing it, Revival is here for the taking if
>we are strong in faith, and the Word {Our Lord
>Jesus}.

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Kenneth Komoto                     Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pioneer Commander Outpost 193      Phone: (530)757-3276/752-7197
Southpointe Christian Center       Fax  : (530)792-8218
Sacramento, Ca 95828

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