The Timothy Thompson's wrote: > I can't believe that a debate over gun ownership rights have entered the > rangernet. Are you all truly blind to the real issue? If we are stewards of this > country, and of its founding principles, we should support no losses of our > freedoms. (forget the word "guns") Hold it right there amigo- ( -=a=- walks out on the ice before the NRA and says!) *We appoint legislatures to act in our behalf and agree to live under LAW. That *LAW is subject to amendment and change to reflect the will of the people. ....currently we have the right to arm bears<G> Do not object to living under the Law! *Our freedom is found is "getting along" by agreements, and when we find a dispute we go to court! Courts are bound by statutes and precedent case law.. Lawyers work to interpret the law and Judges rule on the "motions presented"...and are subject to higher courts of review. *Our "real" fight will be when we no longer have the right to worship God and assemble- and the Bill of rights are suspended.. that more than likely will be because of civil unrest and disorderly conduct! Our hearts should be turned to peace and prayer for our brothers who prepare for war and have anger and hate in their hearts! *What do we "preach before the boys?" We are not a "posse' or even a freeman's paramilitary militia!" What part of your "testimony" would have you take "firearms" against other citizens to "preserve and defend *who's freedom? YOURS? Even Bill Clinton will let you pack a shotgun by the door, to *Preserve and protect your family! *Isn't that honestly more than enough? I've heard and read every statute on the use of deadly force in the 50 states and here's the truth! Defending yourself with a Gun is NOT WORTH IT! In the extreme.. "If you are found "not guilty" of manslaughter murder or assault.. you will have killed someone and the court fees will be in excess of $10,000. Your likely to have to sell your home and move because of the fear the neighbors have with you and your friends will never forget the actions you took. For years the media will haunt you with questions.. and you will face trauma and mental anguish." Let the Police act as your agents of freedom. This "defending" freedom issue is the domain of law enforcement and the US Military. *support them and hold them accountible as agents! These people put their LIVES ON THE LINE! -under command authority to act under guidelines for use of deadly force. They are liable for their actions! Watch "defending the moral authority of Thomas Jefferson and others.." The founders may have been God fearing "christians" but only extended the right to vote or participate in the governance of this country to Women,Indians and non-white citizens without property by amending the "founders" original document! Our government is a "work in progress".... This is the way it's supposed to work! -------------------------------------- This was done over time by the process of legislative review and popular political action based on moral principals and review by the judicial courts, then by vote and ratification of the states. *That's legal! That's the way I want it.. how about you? *If you say the 2nd amendment is unchangeable you are wrong. The "Moral" climate might require a similar re-view and it may be found that to insure the peace and human rights of the majority, and promote domestic tranquility as well as the right to pursue happiness.. *(prepare for a shock) Trigger Locks might become required! > > A question was asked " Why have more gun laws when current gun laws are not > being enforced". and the answer is Deception. One by one our freedoms will > continually be eroded until we no longer have any freedom at all. *I doubt this.. Guns now fall under the B.A.T.F. and that controls since 1934 National Firearms Act the ownership of full auto machine guns ect. This agency also controls the taxation of Alcohol and Tobacco... you don't oppose that do you? Is it an act of freedom to have 4 beers and drive a car stoned? Is it freedom to take a cigarette, known to cause cancer and blow smoke in my face? NO! We agree to limit or "require" proper behavior, and should do so with Gun owners... *But when we choose issues based on "Freedom" we act as others from our cultural biases.. So when...."Smokers" lose the battle to smoke in public there does not seem to be an equal cry that *their freedoms are being removed... No rather "Christians" seem united to condemn smokers and 2nd hand smoke as un-safe for the welfare of the greater public... *Good Chat! *Let Freedom Ring! *Eat the HAY AND SPEW THE DEW!<g> *God bless yah! -=A=- > > This debate should not be over "gun ownership" it should be over our current > government eroding the founding principles of this country in all areas of life. > If you want to debate the issue then debate the issue. Don't be duped into a > surface debate. > > Timberjack Tim Thompson > > > _______ > To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "Eat the hay & spit out the sticks! - A#1's mule" RTKB&G4JC! > http://rangernet.org Autoresponder: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ��ࡱ�
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