Edward Christiansen wrote:
> OK DUANE, ENOUGH! When you smear the military voters you are WAY
> out of line. Get your head out of the sand, throw away your silly
> liberal cloak and look at the facts.
>
> 1. Many ships CANNOT postmark a letter. Pure and simple. This fact
> was made clear but I guess you were too busy whining and crying
> about your buddy GOre having such an unfair time.
*Thanks for getting to know me<G>
-=A=- voted BUSH! at the request of Sen.John McCain.
Also.. as a US Navy Vet of Vietnam, I know what happened,
and not counting their vote was BOGUS! You read me wrong!
Republican "overseers" were tasked with disrupting the patchwork
hand count and intimidateing the volenteer counters in Fla.
The Sec.of State Harrison, was acting out of political monkey wrenching
to confuse the hand count, stop the count, limit the count and ignore the
count. In the end... it was so messed up through monkey wrenching that
the Supream Court said enough! 5-4 split on party line.
*Again today that is just History... let's move on.
>
>
> 2. These military votes made there way stateside via military channels.
> Some of these are slow due to curcumstances beyond their control.
> That's life in the military. I will not be silent when a banjo pickin
> dude with one opinion too many says that those who put their lives
> in harm's way for our country shouldn't have their votes counted
> because the military system is tuned for military needs and not
> civilian?
This banjo picker wrote "FREE" many times from the combat zone
and had at least one UH54 shot out from under his keester... That
was 1972 and I voted Calif. absentee from Vietnam for "McGovern!"
I have my DD214 ready as proof.<G>
>
>
> 3. US Law specifically states each election will be run under the laws as
> they exist and these may not be amended. Do A look up on cnn.com
> and you can read the relevant sections of law. What the Florida
> Supreme Court did was illegal. Pure and simple. Spend some time
> researching BEFORE you speak.
Yea Ed- ...and I work at a Law School where the US Supream court
ruleing is being discussed! The buzz here is with the "timeline"...
"Someone" messed with the legal "hand re-count" and didn't make sure
that count was done under uniform guidlines, so the protest would
never end. That "someone" in every case was pro-BUSH
Mahalo!
-=A=-
>
>
> Ed Christiansen
>
> Duane Wheeler wrote:
> >
> > Ken Komoto wrote:
> >
> > > 1. the monkey wrenching was being done by the people 'counting' the ballots;
> >
> > Respectfully, I decent...
> >
> > The "Monkey wrenching" was done by political operatives under the
> > instruction of both camps...
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2. those 'counting' the ballots felt intimidated because they were lying and
> > > cheating and eating chads and didn't want observers watching them;
> >
> > Wow!
> >
> > The counters were doing a good job and counted as many for Bush as they
> > found for Gore! *I don't fault them, when clear instruction needed to be
> > at the head of the count from the Fla. Supream court. It was a failure, and
> > I don't buy that there isn't someone someway who will count the ballots for
> > history and delever a clear result.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > 3. American citizens who can't be bothered to vote correctly shouldn't get
> > > treated with special care and handling when the other 99.9% can do it
> > > correctly;
> >
> > You got me there...so I guess the sailors who normaly don't postmark their
> > mail are not responsible to postmark it for meeting the rules of the absentee
> > vote? *You agree then they should be thrown out?
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > 4. The network forecasting machines did indeed have a problem. The machines
> > > that actually counted the vote did not. They simply counted what they were
> > > given to count.
> >
> > They came up with a second count when run again and that got the
> > hand count going because of the closeness of the machine count...
> >
> > The election had a provision for protesting both the count and the result!
> > That "provision" is ashure fairness of the election and that all the votes
> > were counted. *Did that happen? You say it did... but sadly now,
> > the vote dose'nt matter at all! the Bozo politicians steped in to "settle"
> > the dust.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > 5. The humans doing the counting bent over backward to count ballots that
> > > shouldn't have been counted. And the Supreme Court took note of this when
> > > they mentioned that one county had a disproportionate number of revised
> > > votes for the population difference between two counties.
> >
> > *I agree. but desent from the claim that the human factor was intent on
> > counting votes that were not there. I agree that a patchwork of instruction
> > does not meet the need of clear and uniform instruction to assure the count
> > is fair to all. That is obvious, but still the order could be to count the
> > ballots
> > again, under such circumstances that a fair assesment of the intent of the people
> >
> > could be determined.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > 6. Another problem that couldn't be resolved was this question: If we are
> > > going to use a standard for counting the 'undervotes', why doesn't the SAME
> > > standard get applied to votes that were already counted by the machine? If
> > > there is a definite punch, but there is also a secondary 'punch' that would
> > > be counted by the 'undervote' standard, then the ballot should be tossed
> > > because two votes in the same race is an invalid vote.
> >
> > *Fuzzy numbers, amigo<G>
> >
> > If you had a contest where Nader and Bucannon were eliminated,
> > Gore would have had it in the bag...
> >
> > If you had a contest where idiots didn't vote for the wrong person,
> > or get confused by the ballot instruction, GORE would have had the edge.
> >
> > If all the ballots that had become "invalid" had been counted- GORE would
> > have had the edge.
> >
> > Nationwide, the American people voted 50-50 down the middle, with
> > the minescule advantage of 400,000 for Gore.
> >
> > *So it's no wonder Bush won.<G>
> >
> > -=A=-
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > ============================================================
> > > Kenneth Komoto mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Pioneer Commander Outpost 193 Phone: (530)752-7197
> > > Southpointe Christian Center Fax : (530)752-0329
> > > Sacramento, Ca 95828
> >
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