To all I am thankful for the replies received as I thought those two quotes
were very different then the usual views they struck me and if as you say
the first quote is false doctrine (I will have to read up on the issue for
myself) then it would be the first time I ever heard such a thing coming
from my pastor. However I do have to say he was not being malicious I
believe the baby issue is a utmost to him.
As for the second quote I was not meaning to be judgmental of anyone but
myself.
<I am ashamed of myself for my lack of impact.
and I am. (Brian I appreciate your word re: this)
I am thankful for that verse in Jeremiah. I just never thought before of
God being a witness against me. I pray that he has a good testimony on that
day to come.
Finally, thank you for saying what you said in love and not in flames. Very
nice.
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From: Duane Wheeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 1:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [RR] Impact
Gist, Kelly wrote:
> Last night pastor Cody quoted Ms. Ellen Parsley (World Harvest Church
mother
> of Rod Parsley) from an altar call she made not long ago..."Your vote is
not
> about the money (jobs), your vote is about the babies (abortions). If you
> voted for a candidate who is pro-abortion then you as a Christian must
come
> down to the altar and repent because the blood of the babies is on your
> hands."
*With all respect due-
That is a false doctrine.
*If nessecary I'm explain, but please look to the damage that would
come from a schizem or *condemnation of others for their public
*vote.
In my heart I plead for *Love to bridge the gap of understanding and
wish blessings on the lost and that light would lead the way.
>
>
> Opened my eyes and made me think of how responsible we are for how we
affect
> this nation.
>
> Another quote I heard I believe from Chuck Coleson was he quoting
statistics
> from a poll as to number of Christians "there are over 67,000,000
> Christians" and their purpose "what kind of noticeable impact have they
> made? Not noticeable"
>
> Scary. My immediate thoughts were --What if we weren't here, it would be
a
> whole lot worse than it is now!
>
> Now I think that is pretty sad. If we are the salt of this earth that the
> Word says we are, we should be (with 67,000,000) making hugely noticeable
(
That is not for you to judge... your job is to Love God and love others!
*Be Free!
>
> Not for bragging rights "look how many I got saved today" no, for not
having
> the fire, the boldness and the shamelessness needed for Jesus Christ and
> going out there and making a change. I have had so many ideas on how to
> make changes and what have I done with them? I know those ideas were not
> mine they were blessings that I have not used. The way that statistic
made
> me feel is like I was lukewarm and about to be spit out of the mouth of
God.
Please think through that...
*God would not have you feel "lukewarm" or lacking grace, but rather who
would benifit from your discouragement? *right.. the 'enemy
>
>
> It is time to make impact. I will be putting this to the forefront of my
> lessons in our meetings. I don't know yet how I'll do it but I will pray
> and hope that God will give me the words to get these boys up and out and
> making impact otherwise there will be a lot more blood on my hands that I
> will have to answer for.
As Christ followers we must allways be crystal clear in our "ministry to
kids" for the Bible has strong words for those who would mislead them,
*so we take a risk! *But also we are called to "share"... and we all can
do that, and let the HolyGhost guide us.
>
>
> I was reading in I think it was Jeremiah 29. God was talking about the
sin
> he saw and heard and at the end he says "I know it and am a witness to
it,"
> declares the LORD". That really scared me having the Lord be a witness
> against me. I started praying "Lord, let me be the type of person that
your
> son Jesus can advocate not that you can witness against." There was more,
> but that was between he and me.
> Don't know why I wrote this, just felt compelled. Hope it blesses
someone.
>
> Kelly
Right<G>
Rangernet holds many messages for others that are ment to bless...
Just relax, and let it go<G>
Good Word!
-=A=-
>
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