Mark,
 
Our outpost has never had a large number of older boys. Usually 1-3 max (that would be in high school).
 
Right now we have zero. Why? First, no boys that have graduated from Adventure to Expedition in the past two years. Second, lack of recruitment on my and my leaders part. Third, lack of space in our church (Adventure Rangers meet in a storage room, not good). Fourth, lack of discipline on high school boys part. What I mean by this is - they see the discipline we instill and figure that is not for them.
 
Our church does not require an older boy to go to youth. That is their decision. I have had it go both ways. Some stay and some go. My philosophy is as long as the young man is being feed by the church, praise God.
 
Keeping the Outpost boy lead starts with setting up leadership in Ranger Kids. As these Rangers graduate they take these leadership skills up to the next level. And, as leaders, instilling leadership and the responsibilities that come from these positions into the boys. Demand and Expect greatness and you will see it!
 
Am I there yet? No, this is a work in progress :-)
 
God Bless,
 
Bob Triphahn
 

 
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: Mark Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 8:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [RR] Patrol System is it dieing out?

Have you noticed a decrease in the older boys in your programs?  If not what are you doing to keep your outpost boy lead?

Mark Jones
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 7:54 PM
Subject: RE: [RR] Patrol System is it dieing out?

The patrol is alive and well if you use it in your outpost.
 
Yearly Advancement requires Leadership time. Leadership opportunities have been expanded with the inclusion of Outpost Chaplin's Assistant, Outpost Scribe, Outpost Scout and Outpost Quartermaster found in chapter 6 "You and your Outpost" Adventure Rangers Handbook. Ranger Kids have green Guide and Asst. Guide bars (Chapter 5, Ranger Kids Handbook). Discovery Rangers have Red Senior Guide, Guide and Asst Guide bars (along with three of the above special leadership roles) found in chapter 3, Discovery Rangers Handbook. Adventure Rangers use the gold bars and Expedition Rangers use Silver bars.
 
So, the patrol system is encouraged in each age group and the leadership roles expanded as the Ranger ages.
 
As for the fire sale <hee, hee>, these are items that probably did not sell well and being good business people, GPH is reducing the inventory to free shelf space.
 
God Bless and Happy New Year to all,
 
Bob Triphahn
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Mark Jones
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 4:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [RR] Patrol System is it dieing out?

With the new program have you noticed the patrol system dieing out? 
 
It makes sense as the older boys who are supposed to be leading the ("troop" according to the National Website) are in "uth".
 
The reason I emphasized troop was it is a boyscout term and not found in Royal Rangers...except on the national RR website.... I picked it up on a letter from a Dist. Men's Ministries Director after 10 years of experience with Royal Rangers etc....  I made the same mistake the first year in Royal Rangers...until I was enlightened about Troop-Outpost-Patrol differences....
 
GPH is still selling discontinued Patrol Flags and patches but the new program has no real place for it ... or have I missed something? 
 
Why have a Sr. Guide and Patrol guides Asst. Guides but no place for them in the program or patches...standards..ect.?  Questions...I ask. 
 
Can someone put me on the path to understanding here?
 
Mark Jones

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