On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 13:31 +0000, Ross Gardler wrote:
> 2009/2/23 Robert Burrell Donkin <[email protected]>:
> > On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 15:47 +0000, Ross Gardler wrote:
> >> 2009/2/13 Stefan Bodewig <[email protected]>:
> >> > On 2009-02-12, Robert Burrell Donkin 
> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 14:24 +0100, Stefan Bodewig wrote:
> >> >>> On 2009-02-12, Gavin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> 
> ...
> 
> >> >> it was much easier for me over at googlecode.
> >> >
> >> > Why is that?
> >>
> >> Any thoughts?
> >
> > i liked the short, easy release cycles
> 
> I don't understand what has changed. Build the release and call a
> vote. I appreciate on GoogleCode you didn't need to call a vote, but
> it's just 3 days delay or am I oversimplifying it?

you're right that it's probably just a matter of attitude

over in the commons, the bar for releases was really high (usually a
typo in the documentation would be enough to cut another candidate) and
over in james, releases often take months to be approved.

> >
> >> I think a release is in order. Perhaps someone can build a release 
> >> candidate.
> >
> > +1
> >
> > volunteers?
> 
> In my opinion, this is the problem, not the long release cycle. It's
> whether someone has the cycles to do it (we've all had the cycles to
> read and comment on this thread, are we asting time?)

let's give it a go. unless anyone else jumps in, i'll act as release
manager for this one and do the preparation tomorrow 

> >> > The only thing that is slowing us down is that we are not trying to
> >> > move at all.  That nobody of us has any clue of where RAT would fit in
> >> > is big part of that.  I have no idea myself.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure either, but then it's not really ready to leave the
> >> incubator. We need users who are going to add features
> >
> > RAT works well enough for existing users to have unsufficient motivation
> > to code new features
> 
> Existing users within the ASF, but what about beyond it? Just last
> week I was with a major open source project that wasn't aware of
> potential licence conflicts that I was aware of via Ohloh. They wanted
> to know where these conflicts were - RAT, with a little work, could do
> that. We need to evangalise about RAT and encourage these people to
> use it. 

cool

i think that this probably needs the ontology stuff (but that shouldn't
be too hard to add)

> The first stage of this is to create a release.

+1

- robert


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