On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, John Andersen wrote:

> On Wednesday 18 February 2004 08:29, Mike Burger wrote:
> 
> > Then, once you've cleared out the ham, you could use razor-report to
> > report the entire batch of messages in one shot.
> 
> > If enough people send in the same spam, it winds up in the database, and
> > the next time it comes through your system, razor will spot it.
> 
> But its ALREADY been flagged as spam by spamassassin.  So what's
> the point?

You're right...It has already been flagged by SA...but what if SA didn't 
catch something, and you chose to store it in that same place as the other 
batch.  You're then reporting spam that wasn't detected...and once that's 
in the Razor database(s), SA will catch it as spam, as part of its razor 
check.

> If Razor relies on people submitting known spam, and the overwhelmingly
> vast majority of those submitting spam do so from automatically trapped
> spam, then razor by definition can never come close to the effectiveness
> of those other automated detection agents, as it will always be behind
> the power curve.

As I said...it might not have been caught by the automated detection 
agents.  Adding it to the razor database will help the automated detection 
of SA (if being used with Razor).

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