> From: Robert LeBlanc
     > It's also worth noting that many of the "power users" 
     > out there are 
     > integrating Razor in the context of some broader 
     > spam-filtering framework 
     > at the mail server level, such that while the reports 
     > themselves may be 
     > sent by the site operator, the actual spam diagnoses are 
     > being made by the 
     > "average users" that are serviced by that site.  With 
     > SpamAssassin 
     > integrating Razor checks, and SpamAssassin in widespread 
     > use at ISPs around 
     > the world, I'd argue that many (most?) of the reports 
     > being filed via 
     > razor2-agents are actually those of "average users", 
     > just as with 
     > SpamNet.  Certainly that's the way ISP tools like Maia 
     > Mailguard work--the 
     > end-users confirm the status of the mail as spam or ham 
     > using a web 
     > interface, and the reporting to Razor/Pyzor/DCC gets 
     > handled behind the scenes.

We don't have anything that elaborate... just a folder on the exchange
server for users to drop spam into. I take a quick look at the subject
lines, and report it to our bayes DB and razor at the same time. I can't
think of any reason that most SA admins wouldn't be doing the same.

Most of what is missed by SA and Razor is put into this folder, and I report
it to razor. It's a pretty effective way of doing things. Also, any FPs are
put into a separate folder and are revoked. It doesn't take much work to
implement this, especially for SA admins, because we are used to training
the bayes DB manually (or at least we SHOULD be)

One weakness I see to this approach is that mail that is missed by razor,
but caught by SA doesn't get reported. At least not by me... Maybe the
people who are doing fully automated reporting are helping to report the
others?


        Anyways.... that's my two cents.
                --J.C.


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