David

I hate it but I would go for #2 option . Clean install of XP. Look upon it from the bright side it is better then installing a new motherboard!

In my life 3.11,95,98,98secE,ME are dead products and should not be considered to be alive. (I have one ME still in production)

But I confess my 2.11 R:Base still runs better under 98.

So my simple advise is, go for XP despite its drawbacks like NTVDM errors and stuff, it is still the most stable OS-enviroment since DOS 6.22

The biggest problem with upgrade to XP rather then clean install I have actually found with r:Base 2.11 not with 6.++ (DOS or Windows)

 

I might add it feels good to give advise to an R:BASE Icon

 

If it helps I feel even better, if it does not I promise I will not feel worse!

 

Gunnar Ekblad

 

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TO all who had valuable suggestions on the R:Base 6.5++ problems my client is having on a machine upgraded from XP.

 

Here's what we've learned so far.

 

1.   In checking the driver, my client found that XP was NOT using the default driver, so it had found a driver for the card.

2.  The driver is an SIS driver.  THe video card is actually part of the mother board.  He searched on their web site for this product and found NO drivers listed for XP for this product.

3.  The upgrade to XP was NOT done by removing 98 but by installing XP over 98.

 

In addition, the client did some searching on the web and found an exact description for the ghosting problem he's having on a web site about running Word Perfect for DOS on XP's.  There WAS a fix for it BUT it involved using the WP menus themselves, not anything under XP.  So the problem is known, but we can't find so far any fix for XP itself.

 

The machine in question really is ONLY used to run R:Base.  The client will be upgrading to 7.0 in the spring.  The machine that was successful, you'll remember, was a NEW machine.  They were planning to upgrade (not replace) more machines to XP but are waiting to see if we can resolve this problem.

 

Suggestions?  Our options include:

1.  Replace the motherboard

2.  Redo the install by removing windows 98 and installing XP

3.  Go back to 98 until we upgrade to 7.0 (and NOT upgrade the other machines until then)

 

I'd love to find a simpler option to solve the issue - any ideas?

 

 

 

David Blocker
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----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 1:56 AM

Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: R:BASE for DOS 6.5++ on XP

 

David,

 

In win XP Pro:  (May be slightly different if Home Edition)

Click the following:

 

-Start

-Control Panel

-Appearance & Themes

-Display

-Settings  -> The monitor used (or default) should be displayed on this screen.

                  Of default then the correct driver is not installed. If named driver is

                  installed then it may need updating, or problem may be with video

                  card driver.

-Advanced

-Monitor

-Properties

-Driver (Tab)

-Update Driver      (Update here if you have the driver available)

************************************************************************************

 

An alternate path is to use the traditional Win 98 view:

-Start

-Control Panel

-Switch to Classic View   (Seen on the left sidebar)

-Display     (then, continue from the Display line above)

.

.

 

 

Robert B.

 

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 11/13/2003 8:40:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Bob and Bob

Thanks for your replies.  Both of you are pointing them in the direction of
checking the video card / drivers.  Can you indicate the exact sequence of
mouse clicks / menu selections needed to check what the driver is - to see
if it's "using the default" or "not the correct drivers for the video card
under DOS mode"?   I'm helping them over the phone so I need to be able to
do it on my XP while walking them through checking / changing it on my XP.

How do I find what the setup is? How do I tell if it's right / wrong?  How
do I change and what do I change it to?

Thanks!

David Blocker
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
781-784-1919
Fax: 781-784-1860
Cell: 339-206-0261
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Speth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "RBASE-L Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 8:23 PM
Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: R:BASE for DOS 6.5++ on XP


> That everything worked on a "clean" machine, the first thing I would
suspect
> is that WINDOWS XP was installed over WINDOWS 98 leaving incompatible code
> and/or files. Recommend completely deleting WINDOWS 98 and then installing
> WINDOWS XP on old machines.
>
> Other than that I would suspect that WINDOWS XP does not have the correct
> drivers for the video card under DOS mode.
>
> Bob Speth
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David M. Blocker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "RBASE-L Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 1:17 PM
> Subject: [RBASE-L] - R:BASE for DOS 6.5++ on XP
>
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Folks
> >
> >
> >
> > A client of mine is upgrading their machines from Windows 98 to WIndows
> XP.
> > In one case, they brought in a NEW machine with XP, installed R:Base
6.5++
> > DOS again, and it runs our application just fine.
> >
> >
> >
> > On the second, they took the SAME machine and changed it from 98 to XP.
In
> > the process, they uninstalled 6.5++ and then installed it again.
> >
> >
> >
> > On this machine, at first they weren't getting a full screen. I helped
> them
> > with that by setting up a new icon that runs a batch file that in turn
> runs
> > RBase (paths are OK), and setting the properties on the Options Tab to
> "full
> > screen".
> >
> >
> >
> > However, they are now getting a very strange "ghosting" effect, as they
> > describe it to me. First the commands in the batch show on the screen
even
> > when in R:Base.  Second, when they select an item in the menu which
brings
> > up an editing screen, and then leave that screen to return to the menu
> > (created with a CHOOSE command from a PULLDOWN block in an APX file),
the
> > record just edited remains on screen in the background even though the
> form
> > has been closed. It isn't the form - it runs fine on the other machine.
> >
> >
> >
> > We checked the system variables - TEMP, TMP, FILES, BUFFERS - the latter
> two
> > were missing but we added them in. No effect..
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone seen anything like this before? Have any ideas what to do?  They
> have
> > more PC's to upgrade but they're on hold until we figure this on out!
> >
> >
> >
> > David Blocker
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 781-784-1919
> > Fax: 781-784-1860
> > Cell: 339-206-0261
>
>

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