I will check on these. But would that not affect everyone? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce A. Chitiea Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 4:41 PM To: RBASE-L Mailing List Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: some computers slow
Jim: Also, is anyone running Carbonite or some other background/online backup program? Until disabled during working hours, Carbonite brings things to a vicious crawl or full stop. You will see its process run in Task Manager. Bruce Chitiea SafeSectors, Inc. eCondoMetrics -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Belisle Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:15 PM To: RBASE-L Mailing List Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: some computers slow Jan, Now I will show my lack on\f knowledge. I have always had a problem figuring that out. The configuration setting is TMP. I have a hard time finding the files however. Jim -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jan johansen Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 3:53 PM To: RBASE-L Mailing List Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: some computers slow Where are your scratch files going? -----Original Message----- From: "Jim Belisle" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] (RBASE-L Mailing List) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:40:06 -0500 Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: some computers slow > Here is what is happening on this particular machine. > 1) other programs are not slow so something is amiss in how RBASE is > communicating with this machine. > 2) Even in simple lookups RBASE goes into 'not responding' mode in the > form caption and it is truly not responding. > I know this because the task manager shows no CPU usage at all for the > RBASE application. > We are talking taking a minute (or more) to do a simple lookup that > other machines are doing in seconds. > This is the puzzling part. It is certainly machine related. > The task manager is showing no other applications using any CPU except > the task manager itself. > > Anyone have any other ideas? > We are looking into seeing if there is a virus scan that is part of > the problem. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kenny > Camp > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 3:12 PM > To: RBASE-L Mailing List > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: some computers slow > > A little more info for RBase programmers with little IT experience. > > Users and newbie IT guys often think that RBase has frozen or crashed > because windows reports (in the caption of some forms) that RBase has > "quit responding". Almost always this is incorrect, and some IT guys > will kill RBase without thinking further, but by using the task > manager you can see that RBase is working hard, but just hasn't > communicated with Windows for a while. Other programs do this too, not just RBase. > > But if your program is caught in an infinite loop, it will show a > CPU%, but will never end. > > If someone kills a process that is in the middle of it's work, you can > imagine the damage to the data that could result. > > Remember "Ready, aim, shoot!" > > Not "Ready, shoot, aim!" > > Kenny > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kenny > Camp > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:59 PM > To: RBASE-L Mailing List > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: some computers slow > > It's actually very interesting for geeks like me. > > For this analysis, ignore all processes that are just "loaded" and > focus on the ones "running" (showing a CPU usage above 0%). > > Click on the CPU header to sort by CPU%. If things move to fast to > read, resort by image name and scroll to see which are running and how > much. > > It is normal for the system idle process to equal (100% - the rest of > the processes ) for example my computer right now shows: > > System idle 96% > Taskmgr.exe 2% > outlook.exe 2% > --------------- > equals 100% > > When I quit typing the outlook goes to 0% and system idle goes to 98%. > When Rbase is busy working, you can see how much of the processor CPU > it uses (very interesting). When the work quits, RBase will still be > loaded, but it is not taking any CPU% so CPU usage will drop to 0%. > > If other processes are using a % of the CPU consistently, I would > google the image name and see what you can learn. > Some processes come and go as they are called by other programs or > services. > Indexing and virus and malware scanners can grab a lot of resources, > but better written programs wait in the background (0%) until they see > idle time and jump in an take a %. > > There are a many good resources on the internet to describe what a > process is, but there are many bad ones that try to trick you into > loading unnecessary crapware. > > If you have one you are very concerned about and need help, you can > email mme off list and I will research it for you. > > Kenny > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim > Belisle > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:27 PM > To: RBASE-L Mailing List > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: some computers slow > > Kenny, > > The real question I have always had when looking at the task manager > is what programs need to be running. > I am not an IT man, just a RBASE man so I have no idea which ones > should not be running. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kenny > Camp > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 1:56 PM > To: RBASE-L Mailing List > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: some computers slow > > When one computer is slow and another is fast, I would assume > something extra is running on the slow computer. Look at the task > manager processes and see if something is running (check CPU usage). > Make sure to check the box to see processes running from all users. > > Kenny > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim > Belisle > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 1:35 PM > To: RBASE-L Mailing List > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: some computers slow > > On the scanning for viruses, would you be talking about the individual > computers? > If you are talking about the server that would affect all the > computers. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kenny > Camp > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 12:42 PM > To: RBASE-L Mailing List > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: some computers slow > > Could be the system indexing or scanning for viruses. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim > Belisle > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 12:32 PM > To: RBASE-L Mailing List > Subject: [RBASE-L] - some computers slow > > > > Here is the problem. > > We are using the newest version of 9.5 and we are running a compiled > application. > > Each computer is set up so when starting the application, it looks at > a timestamp file to see if I have made any changes to the application. > > If there have been changes, the code uploads the updates and then the > session starts. > > The actual database is on the server. > > > > On some computers when opening forms or running reports, the session > is super slow. > > At the same time, other computers can open the same form or run the > same report and it is very quick. > > > > Most computers are running Windows 7 but some still run XP. > > Some computers are 64 bit and some 32 bit. > > Neither of the above seems to make a difference. > > If fact one of the 64 bit win 7 machines is the slowest. > > > > Can you folks give me some ideas as to what I should look for on the > particular machines to care for the speed issues? > > > > James Belisle > > > > Making Information Systems People Friendly Since 1990 > > > > > >
