Javier, We all have seen this happening before. It is hard fighting against politics. In normal situations the management should be sensitive for hard figures. Maybe it is an idea to prepare some sheets with figures which makes it clear what the costs are right now. Also you could think of performing a risk analysis, to show them what needs to be done before to step into a new project.
Success Tony -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Javier Valencia Sent: dinsdag 25 maart 2014 23:32 To: RBASE-L Mailing List Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: Using R:Base as front End Thanks R:azzak, I started using R:base since the R:base 4000 release in 1983, over 30 year ago and I have been continuously used the various versions with a hiatus between the very first Windows Version (5.0) and the initial release from RBTI. Version 4.5++ was rock solid but 9.5 is by far the best. Through all this time we have offered our clients quality product and services. The current end users of the system in question are extremely pleased with the application and the service we have provided and do not want to change. The decision to look at other option is not based on technical merits, product performance or user satisfaction, but other factors completely unrelated to the application. The RFP includes requirements such as a mandatory partnership with ESRI (GIS software vendor), which is akin to buying a laptop and requiring the vendor to be an Epson authorized dealer since you will be using Epson printers. It makes no sense and it is clearly designed to eliminate the majority of potential vendors. Some other requirements include: Be compatible with "various operating system including iOS, Windows 2007 and Windows 2008; Windows Server 2008 and Windows 2012." I am not sure what Windows 2007 and Windows 2008 are; I am sure Microsoft does not either. Provide Cloud (hosted), hybrid, and on-site solutions with potential for AD and LDAP integration. Without more details and what percentage of the application is in each category it is impossible to quantify costs. There are also a number of conflicting items and vague requirement that could easily affect he bid price by more than $10K each. This 21 page RFP is so poorly and vaguely scoped that is practically impossible to provide a firm bid. At this point and based on how a vendor interprets the scope, I could bid $10K or S100K and I am not sure which would be correct. Whoever came up with this RFP has no idea of the work involved. Hopefully in the next few days I will be meeting with some higher ranked personnel and hopefully this non-sense can be stopped. Javier, Javier Valencia, PE O: 913-829-0888 H: 913-397-9605 C: 913-915-3137 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of A. Razzak Memon Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 4:00 PM To: RBASE-L Mailing List Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: Using R:Base as front End At 04:26 PM 3/25/2014, Javier Valencia wrote: >I know of no other application out there has our capabilities, so it is >very likely that the RFP will require an MS SQL database as a way to >keep us out. They are absolutely adamant that they do not want to use >Oterro for ODBC connectivity. > >The bulk of the application is the front end, forms (200+) and reports >(200+), views (100+) and programs, as the database structure itself >(140 tables, 2700+ columns) is relatively easy to duplicate. Javier, Do you know how many R:BASE customers have tried other options, wasted hundreds and thousands of dollars, and are still using R:BASE? Do you wonder why? If (a big IF) you have lived up to your customers high expectations, have kept them up-to-date, and have provided them with every single feature they have requested, you simply don't have to worry about this. Let them dig their own hole and explore other options, and learn their lesson, eventually appreciating what R:BASE eXtreme 9.5 (64) has to offer today. Why R:BASE? www.rbase.com/whyrbase.php Having said that, yes, you CAN use R:BASE eXtreme 9.5 (64) as front-end to MS SQL Server and Oracle. R:BASE for Everyone: http://www.rbase.com/rbg95/rbaseforeveryone.jpg http://www.rbase.com/rbaseforeveryone_application.jpg 2014 SAT Sample Applications include a sample to illustrate the use of such option using R:BASE eXtreme 9.5 (64). 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