The 10 means 10 pixels, so if you used 10 and 10 it should place it 10 pixels 
from the  top and 10 pixels from the left of the container where the object is 
located.

Javier,

Javier Valencia, PE
O: 913-829-0888
H: 913-397-9605
C: 913-915-3137
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Patti Jakusz
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 3:02 PM
To: RBASE-L Mailing List
Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form

HI Mike,

Sorry, I was off-line and just read this now.  I was about to download the form 
and I took another look at it first.  Moving the phantom field to 10,10, I 
thought it would be in the upper left corner of the form.  But it put it just a 
hair inside the good field.  I took a snip of it.. So I guess it was fixed 
yesterday, but I was looking in the wrong area for it. Thank you so much.
Patti

      From: MikeB <[email protected]>
 To: RBASE-L Mailing List <[email protected]>
 Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 10:59 PM
 Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
   
Send me the form along with a description of the driving table so I can create 
a table with an empty row. Zip it up and send it to:
[email protected]

I have time to fix it tomorrow. Take a minute to do it.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Patti 
> Jakusz
> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 8:54 PM
> To: RBASE-L Mailing List
> Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> 
> Hi Mike and Javier,
> 
> I uncompressed the form.  I couldn't figure out what the navigator was 
> so I just went to the R> prompt and typed: edit all from sys_forms3.  
> I went to the Sys_Data field and searched for my phantom field, for 
> which I earlier changed the component name to "phantom."  I switched 
> the coordinates to 10, 10 and saved everything.
> 
> Then I went to design the form again.  Still couldn't see the field.
> So I'm giving up.  I will just finish my new form again.  I can only 
> assume that some error was caused because Rbase crashes on me several 
> times/day.  Thank you for all your help.
> 
> 
> Patti
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: Javier Valencia <[email protected]>
> To: RBASE-L Mailing List <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 11:11 PM
> Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> 
> 
> Mike,
> 
> I posted the information below in a previous post but It seems to have 
> gotten lost in the interwebs... :( Hopefully this one makes it...
> ==================
> Patti,
> 
> There are several way you can solve your problem.
> First, backup your form.
> Second, back up your form.
> Next, open the object list and find the item you want to delete, even 
> if you don’t see it on the screen, select the field on the object list 
> and press the DELETE key and your field will be gone. If the wrong 
> field is deleted, restore the form from the backup and start again.
> The other way is more complicated and involves editing the SYS_FORMS3 
> table.
> On the R:Base Navigator select System Tables, and the double click on 
> SYS_FORMS3. A browser with all your form will open. Make sure you are 
> in the editing mode, select your form and the double click the 
> Sys_data column. Provided your form is not encrypted or compressed the 
> R:Base Editor will open with all the code for the form. If the BLOB 
> editor open, then your form is encrypted or compressed and you will 
> need to change to the normal mode.
> You can find the object your are looking for by using the SEARCH 
> button. Once you find it, It will have a bunch of data and a part of 
> it will look like this:
> 
> object VarLabel14: TVarLabel
> Tag = 39474034
> Left = 179
> Top = 397
> Width = 68
> Height = 16
> 
> Of course the Object will reflect the type you are looking for. Change 
> the Left and Top coordinates to say 10 and 10 so it shows on the upper 
> left hand corner of the form. Exit the grid, save it, and now your 
> ghost object should show up on your form.
> While looking at the code, you can probably find the repeated EEP. 
> Very powerful tool but not for the faint of heart. I have used it in 
> the past to find code that I could not find otherwise and for global 
> conversion of objects to their corresponding enhanced versions before 
> a right click upgrade was available.
> 
> Again, make sure you back up your form before doing any work so you 
> can always restore it to its original condition ================== 
> Javier,
> 
> Javier Valencia, PE
> O: 913-829-0888
> H: 913-397-9605
> C: 913-915-3137
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of MikeB
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 9:52 PM
> To: RBASE-L Mailing List
> Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> 
> If you were more experienced you could edit the form description 
> directly in the sys_forms3 table and remove the code segment for the 
> field description.
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> > Patti Jakusz
> > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 8:34 PM
> > To: RBASE-L Mailing List
> > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> >
> > Yes, I will have to bite the bullet and start.  I have to select 
> > them individually, so I don't pick up the phantom field.  And then 
> > the field order gets screwed up when you copy them to a new form.  
> > And
> all
> > the radio buttons need fixing.  All the variables.  Just  a couple 
> > of hours I didn't need to waste.
> >
> > Thank you for your suggestions though.
> >
> >
> > Patti
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: Dan Goldberg <[email protected]>
> > To: RBASE-L Mailing List <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 6:22 PM
> > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> >
> >
> > Try to select them and copy them in a new form.
> >
> > Dan Goldberg
> >
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> > Patti Jakusz
> > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:50 PM
> > To: RBASE-L Mailing List
> > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> >
> > It took about 15 hours to create the report. I'm hoping there's 
> > another solution.
> > Patti
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: jan johansen <[email protected]>
> > To: RBASE-L Mailing List <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 5:13 PM
> > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> >
> > Patti,
> >
> > Sometimes weirdness happens and the only way to fix is start over.
> > Just re-create the form.
> >
> > Jan
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Patti Jakusz <[email protected]>
> > To: [email protected] (RBASE-L Mailing List)
> > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 22:06:45 +0000 (UTC)
> > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> >
> > I could only find one of the fields that way.  The other one has 
> > coordinates that are nearby.  When I select it in object list, no 
> > field is highlighted by the dots on the form.  I'm looking right
> where
> > the field should be.  When I click in object list and hit delete on 
> > the phantom field, nothing happens.
> >
> > Patti
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: "Richardson, Jeff" <[email protected]>
> > To: RBASE-L Mailing List <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:57 PM
> > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> >
> > Regarding the removal of the unwanted field, I can select any form 
> > object from the object list with my mouse (blue dots appear around 
> > it when I do so, just like as if I clicked directly on the object) 
> > and then when I hit the delete key on the keyboard… poof, it’s gone.
> >
> >
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> > Patti Jakusz
> > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:41 PM
> > To: RBASE-L Mailing List
> > Subject: [RBASE-L] - phantom field on a form
> >
> > Hello again,
> >
> > I was tracing a form and noticed an eep was initiated 3 times on the 
> > same field.  I went into designer and only see one field  (a
> variable)
> > that calls that eep.  I looked at Object List and it appears twice.
> I
> > can click on the Object List and find one of them, but not the other.
> > I looked in Tabbing order and it only appears once.
> >
> > So I tried to use the left & top coordinates to find the phantom
> field.
> > The good variable is located Left: 159 and top: 292.  The bad one is
> > Left: 161 and Top: 110.  I found a field that is near that location 
> > and moved it, but there's nothing underneath.  I tried to catch it 
> > by roping around that area and hitting delete, but it's still in my 
> > Object list.
> >
> > I unloaded and loaded the form again, but it's still there.  Is 
> > there some other way I can delete that field?  I still don't know 
> > why the eep is executing 3 times either.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Patti
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 



  


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