Alrighty then....

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Patti
> Jakusz
> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 4:02 PM
> To: RBASE-L Mailing List
> Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> 
> HI Mike,
> 
> Sorry, I was off-line and just read this now.  I was about to download
> the form and I took another look at it first.  Moving the phantom field
> to 10,10, I thought it would be in the upper left corner of the form.
> But it put it just a hair inside the good field.  I took a snip of it..
> So I guess it was fixed yesterday, but I was looking in the wrong area
> for it. Thank you so much.
> Patti
> 
>       From: MikeB <[email protected]>
>  To: RBASE-L Mailing List <[email protected]>
>  Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 10:59 PM
>  Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> 
> Send me the form along with a description of the driving table so I can
> create a table with an empty row. Zip it up and send it to:
> [email protected]
> 
> I have time to fix it tomorrow. Take a minute to do it.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Patti
> > Jakusz
> > Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 8:54 PM
> > To: RBASE-L Mailing List
> > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> >
> > Hi Mike and Javier,
> >
> > I uncompressed the form.  I couldn't figure out what the navigator
> was
> > so I just went to the R> prompt and typed: edit all from sys_forms3.
> > I went to the Sys_Data field and searched for my phantom field, for
> > which I earlier changed the component name to "phantom."  I switched
> > the coordinates to 10, 10 and saved everything.
> >
> > Then I went to design the form again.  Still couldn't see the field.
> > So I'm giving up.  I will just finish my new form again.  I can only
> > assume that some error was caused because Rbase crashes on me several
> > times/day.  Thank you for all your help.
> >
> >
> > Patti
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: Javier Valencia <[email protected]>
> > To: RBASE-L Mailing List <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 11:11 PM
> > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> >
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > I posted the information below in a previous post but It seems to
> have
> > gotten lost in the interwebs... :( Hopefully this one makes it...
> > ==================
> > Patti,
> >
> > There are several way you can solve your problem.
> > First, backup your form.
> > Second, back up your form.
> > Next, open the object list and find the item you want to delete, even
> > if you don’t see it on the screen, select the field on the object
> list
> > and press the DELETE key and your field will be gone. If the wrong
> > field is deleted, restore the form from the backup and start again.
> > The other way is more complicated and involves editing the SYS_FORMS3
> > table.
> > On the R:Base Navigator select System Tables, and the double click on
> > SYS_FORMS3. A browser with all your form will open. Make sure you are
> > in the editing mode, select your form and the double click the
> > Sys_data column. Provided your form is not encrypted or compressed
> the
> > R:Base Editor will open with all the code for the form. If the BLOB
> > editor open, then your form is encrypted or compressed and you will
> > need to change to the normal mode.
> > You can find the object your are looking for by using the SEARCH
> > button. Once you find it, It will have a bunch of data and a part of
> > it will look like this:
> >
> > object VarLabel14: TVarLabel
> > Tag = 39474034
> > Left = 179
> > Top = 397
> > Width = 68
> > Height = 16
> >
> > Of course the Object will reflect the type you are looking for.
> Change
> > the Left and Top coordinates to say 10 and 10 so it shows on the
> upper
> > left hand corner of the form. Exit the grid, save it, and now your
> > ghost object should show up on your form.
> > While looking at the code, you can probably find the repeated EEP.
> > Very powerful tool but not for the faint of heart. I have used it in
> > the past to find code that I could not find otherwise and for global
> > conversion of objects to their corresponding enhanced versions before
> > a right click upgrade was available.
> >
> > Again, make sure you back up your form before doing any work so you
> > can always restore it to its original condition ==================
> > Javier,
> >
> > Javier Valencia, PE
> > O: 913-829-0888
> > H: 913-397-9605
> > C: 913-915-3137
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of MikeB
> > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 9:52 PM
> > To: RBASE-L Mailing List
> > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> >
> > If you were more experienced you could edit the form description
> > directly in the sys_forms3 table and remove the code segment for the
> > field description.
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> > > Patti Jakusz
> > > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 8:34 PM
> > > To: RBASE-L Mailing List
> > > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> > >
> > > Yes, I will have to bite the bullet and start.  I have to select
> > > them individually, so I don't pick up the phantom field.  And then
> > > the field order gets screwed up when you copy them to a new form.
> > > And
> > all
> > > the radio buttons need fixing.  All the variables.  Just  a couple
> > > of hours I didn't need to waste.
> > >
> > > Thank you for your suggestions though.
> > >
> > >
> > > Patti
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: Dan Goldberg <[email protected]>
> > > To: RBASE-L Mailing List <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 6:22 PM
> > > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> > >
> > >
> > > Try to select them and copy them in a new form.
> > >
> > > Dan Goldberg
> > >
> > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> > > Patti Jakusz
> > > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:50 PM
> > > To: RBASE-L Mailing List
> > > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> > >
> > > It took about 15 hours to create the report. I'm hoping there's
> > > another solution.
> > > Patti
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: jan johansen <[email protected]>
> > > To: RBASE-L Mailing List <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 5:13 PM
> > > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> > >
> > > Patti,
> > >
> > > Sometimes weirdness happens and the only way to fix is start over.
> > > Just re-create the form.
> > >
> > > Jan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Patti Jakusz <[email protected]>
> > > To: [email protected] (RBASE-L Mailing List)
> > > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 22:06:45 +0000 (UTC)
> > > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> > >
> > > I could only find one of the fields that way.  The other one has
> > > coordinates that are nearby.  When I select it in object list, no
> > > field is highlighted by the dots on the form.  I'm looking right
> > where
> > > the field should be.  When I click in object list and hit delete on
> > > the phantom field, nothing happens.
> > >
> > > Patti
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: "Richardson, Jeff" <[email protected]>
> > > To: RBASE-L Mailing List <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:57 PM
> > > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> > >
> > > Regarding the removal of the unwanted field, I can select any form
> > > object from the object list with my mouse (blue dots appear around
> > > it when I do so, just like as if I clicked directly on the object)
> > > and then when I hit the delete key on the keyboard… poof, it’s
> gone.
> > >
> > >
> > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> > > Patti Jakusz
> > > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:41 PM
> > > To: RBASE-L Mailing List
> > > Subject: [RBASE-L] - phantom field on a form
> > >
> > > Hello again,
> > >
> > > I was tracing a form and noticed an eep was initiated 3 times on
> the
> > > same field.  I went into designer and only see one field  (a
> > variable)
> > > that calls that eep.  I looked at Object List and it appears twice.
> > I
> > > can click on the Object List and find one of them, but not the
> other.
> > > I looked in Tabbing order and it only appears once.
> > >
> > > So I tried to use the left & top coordinates to find the phantom
> > field.
> > > The good variable is located Left: 159 and top: 292.  The bad one
> is
> > > Left: 161 and Top: 110.  I found a field that is near that location
> > > and moved it, but there's nothing underneath.  I tried to catch it
> > > by roping around that area and hitting delete, but it's still in my
> > > Object list.
> > >
> > > I unloaded and loaded the form again, but it's still there.  Is
> > > there some other way I can delete that field?  I still don't know
> > > why the eep is executing 3 times either.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Patti
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
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