HI Mike,

Sorry, I was off-line and just read this now.  I was about to download the form 
and I took another look at it first.  Moving the phantom field to 10,10, I 
thought it would be in the upper left corner of the form.  But it put it just a 
hair inside the good field.  I took a snip of it.. So I guess it was fixed 
yesterday, but I was looking in the wrong area for it.  
Thank you so much.
Patti

      From: MikeB <[email protected]>
 To: RBASE-L Mailing List <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 10:59 PM
 Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
   
Send me the form along with a description of the driving table so I can create 
a table with an empty row. Zip it up and send it to:
[email protected]

I have time to fix it tomorrow. Take a minute to do it.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Patti
> Jakusz
> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 8:54 PM
> To: RBASE-L Mailing List
> Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> 
> Hi Mike and Javier,
> 
> I uncompressed the form.  I couldn't figure out what the navigator was
> so I just went to the R> prompt and typed: edit all from sys_forms3.  I
> went to the Sys_Data field and searched for my phantom field, for which
> I earlier changed the component name to "phantom."  I switched the
> coordinates to 10, 10 and saved everything.
> 
> Then I went to design the form again.  Still couldn't see the field.
> So I'm giving up.  I will just finish my new form again.  I can only
> assume that some error was caused because Rbase crashes on me several
> times/day.  Thank you for all your help.
> 
> 
> Patti
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: Javier Valencia <[email protected]>
> To: RBASE-L Mailing List <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 11:11 PM
> Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> 
> 
> Mike,
> 
> I posted the information below in a previous post but It seems to have
> gotten lost in the interwebs... :( Hopefully this one makes it...
> ==================
> Patti,
> 
> There are several way you can solve your problem.
> First, backup your form.
> Second, back up your form.
> Next, open the object list and find the item you want to delete, even
> if you don’t see it on the screen, select the field on the object list
> and press the DELETE key and your field will be gone. If the wrong
> field is deleted, restore the form from the backup and start again.
> The other way is more complicated and involves editing the SYS_FORMS3
> table.
> On the R:Base Navigator select System Tables, and the double click on
> SYS_FORMS3. A browser with all your form will open. Make sure you are
> in the editing mode, select your form and the double click the Sys_data
> column. Provided your form is not encrypted or compressed the R:Base
> Editor will open with all the code for the form. If the BLOB editor
> open, then your form is encrypted or compressed and you will need to
> change to the normal mode.
> You can find the object your are looking for by using the SEARCH
> button. Once you find it, It will have a bunch of data and a part of it
> will look like this:
> 
> object VarLabel14: TVarLabel
> Tag = 39474034
> Left = 179
> Top = 397
> Width = 68
> Height = 16
> 
> Of course the Object will reflect the type you are looking for. Change
> the Left and Top coordinates to say 10 and 10 so it shows on the upper
> left hand corner of the form. Exit the grid, save it, and now your
> ghost object should show up on your form.
> While looking at the code, you can probably find the repeated EEP. Very
> powerful tool but not for the faint of heart. I have used it in the
> past to find code that I could not find otherwise and for global
> conversion of objects to their corresponding enhanced versions before a
> right click upgrade was available.
> 
> Again, make sure you back up your form before doing any work so you can
> always restore it to its original condition
> ==================
> Javier,
> 
> Javier Valencia, PE
> O: 913-829-0888
> H: 913-397-9605
> C: 913-915-3137
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of MikeB
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 9:52 PM
> To: RBASE-L Mailing List
> Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> 
> If you were more experienced you could edit the form description
> directly in the sys_forms3 table and remove the code segment for the
> field description.
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Patti
> > Jakusz
> > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 8:34 PM
> > To: RBASE-L Mailing List
> > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> >
> > Yes, I will have to bite the bullet and start.  I have to select them
> > individually, so I don't pick up the phantom field.  And then the
> > field order gets screwed up when you copy them to a new form.  And
> all
> > the radio buttons need fixing.  All the variables.  Just  a couple of
> > hours I didn't need to waste.
> >
> > Thank you for your suggestions though.
> >
> >
> > Patti
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: Dan Goldberg <[email protected]>
> > To: RBASE-L Mailing List <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 6:22 PM
> > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> >
> >
> > Try to select them and copy them in a new form.
> >
> > Dan Goldberg
> >
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Patti
> > Jakusz
> > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:50 PM
> > To: RBASE-L Mailing List
> > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> >
> > It took about 15 hours to create the report. I'm hoping there's
> > another solution.
> > Patti
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: jan johansen <[email protected]>
> > To: RBASE-L Mailing List <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 5:13 PM
> > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> >
> > Patti,
> >
> > Sometimes weirdness happens and the only way to fix is start over.
> > Just re-create the form.
> >
> > Jan
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Patti Jakusz <[email protected]>
> > To: [email protected] (RBASE-L Mailing List)
> > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 22:06:45 +0000 (UTC)
> > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> >
> > I could only find one of the fields that way.  The other one has
> > coordinates that are nearby.  When I select it in object list, no
> > field is highlighted by the dots on the form.  I'm looking right
> where
> > the field should be.  When I click in object list and hit delete on
> > the phantom field, nothing happens.
> >
> > Patti
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: "Richardson, Jeff" <[email protected]>
> > To: RBASE-L Mailing List <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:57 PM
> > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: phantom field on a form
> >
> > Regarding the removal of the unwanted field, I can select any form
> > object from the object list with my mouse (blue dots appear around it
> > when I do so, just like as if I clicked directly on the object) and
> > then when I hit the delete key on the keyboard… poof, it’s gone.
> >
> >
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Patti
> > Jakusz
> > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:41 PM
> > To: RBASE-L Mailing List
> > Subject: [RBASE-L] - phantom field on a form
> >
> > Hello again,
> >
> > I was tracing a form and noticed an eep was initiated 3 times on the
> > same field.  I went into designer and only see one field  (a
> variable)
> > that calls that eep.  I looked at Object List and it appears twice.
> I
> > can click on the Object List and find one of them, but not the other.
> > I looked in Tabbing order and it only appears once.
> >
> > So I tried to use the left & top coordinates to find the phantom
> field.
> > The good variable is located Left: 159 and top: 292.  The bad one is
> > Left: 161 and Top: 110.  I found a field that is near that location
> > and moved it, but there's nothing underneath.  I tried to catch it by
> > roping around that area and hitting delete, but it's still in my
> > Object list.
> >
> > I unloaded and loaded the form again, but it's still there.  Is there
> > some other way I can delete that field?  I still don't know why the
> > eep is executing 3 times either.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Patti
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 



  

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