That's why I compared the ride of the Ram with 32mm tyres to that of the Atlantis with 26x1.25 tyres. That's the closest to comparing "apples to apples" as your going to get. When you do that the Ram is far better than the Atlantis on the road and only marginally worse that the Atlantis on dirt. So It's the bike I choose for most of my riding. If I was putting 50lbs of gear on the back or if I was going on an expedition over rough ground I probably take the Atlantis.
On Nov 23, 10:30 am, "Mitch F." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we are comparing tire sizes more than bikes. > > The only real comparison is if you use the same wheel/tire combination on > both bikes inflated exactly the same. > > I have three sets of wheels and four tires for my Romulus, 25mm, 28mm, 32mm > and 35mm. Each tire size makes a world of difference. > > I think a better comparison might be made with, say, 28mm fully inflated. A > fatter, softer tire might tend to hide differences in the feel between the > models. > > --- On Sun, 11/23/08, usuk2007 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: usuk2007 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: [RBW] Re: Is the Ram the closest thing to perfect bike? I think so. > > To: "RBW Owners Bunch" <[email protected]> > > Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 9:29 AM > > Obviously tyre size has a big effect. Sometimes I ride the > > Atlantis > > with 26x1.75 Schwalbe Marathons > > over dirt tracks and it obviously does better than the Ram > > with 32mm > > tyres. It feels safer and if > > a rock comes along the Atlantis deals with it better. When > > I put > > 26x1.25 on the Atlantis and ride on the > > road that stability makes it feel slower than the Ram. Its > > a close run > > thing, but I suppose I just like the feeling > > of speed and freedom that I get form the Ram, and as it > > will handle > > the dirt reasonably well and take > > my fairly light touring load it's the bike I prefer for > > most of my > > riding. > > > On Nov 23, 9:14 am, Angus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > I'm also interested in what usuk2007 feels is the > > difference. > > > > I've got both a Rambouillet and an Atlantis, both > > 64cm, the fit is > > > similar. I have 28mm tires on the Rambouillet and > > 37mm tires on the > > > Atlantis, I believe much of the difference I feel > > between the two > > > bikes is due to the tire size. > > > > The Atlantis, probably due to the tires, is less > > jarring over rough > > > road surfaces and seems to be a slightly more stable > > bike. It rides > > > VERY well fully loaded. > > > > The Rambouillet seems to have quicker, more nimble > > steering and > > > transmits more road vibration (probably the tires). > > It feels faster, > > > if I can't keep up with the local carbon bike > > crowd it's not due to > > > the bike. > > > > There is also a weight difference between the two > > bikes, I can feel > > > that when putting the bikes into the back of the > > car... > > > > Angus > > > > On Nov 22, 11:13 pm, "Doug Peterson" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Just curious: Since you have both, what are the > > differences between the Ram > > > > & the Atlantis? > > > > > I have an Atlantis that I purchased primarily for > > touring, so did not > > > > consider component weights at build time. > > It's a pretty standard Riv build; > > > > lots of MTB stuff (crank, hubs, brakes) on 700 > > wheels. > > > > > It's a great bike but admittedly a lot of > > work to keep up with the racy > > > > types (as racy as bunch of retired geezers can > > be, anyway). I'm curious to > > > > hear your comparison. > > > > > dougP > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of usuk2007 > > > > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 6:43 PM > > > > To: RBW Owners Bunch > > > > Subject: [RBW] Is the Ram the closest thing to > > perfect bike? I think so. > > > > > I'm a bit perplexed with the drift of Riv > > away from the "lighter" end > > > > of the frame spectrum. The current frames and new > > ones just on the > > > > horizon look exciting, but there's a big void > > where the Ram was once. > > > > I have an Atlantis and love it, but the Ram is by > > far my favourite > > > > bike; fast enough to feel as if I'm a strong > > cyclist, versatile enough > > > > to go touring with lightweight gear, and even do > > some off road with > > > > 32mm tyres. I think the Ram hits the sweet spot > > between speed, > > > > handling and strength. I haven't ridden an > > AHH, but somehow if just > > > > looks less fun than the Ram, so I'm waiting > > for Rivendell to bring > > > > back the road/sport touring bike.- Hide quoted > > text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
