this looks like an innovative solution to "Fendering difficult bikes"
See page 5 of this link to the latest Rivendell Reader.

Todd Olsen AHH

http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/75/original_RR41_web.pdf

On Feb 21, 4:53 pm, Jim Bronson <[email protected]> wrote:
> I went out and did a 200K brevet on Presidents' day.  It rained the
> first 25 miles, which I was not expecting.  So me and the bike ended
> up looking like crap again.  I need a bike that can accomodate
> fenders.  My Riv is a custom built with short reach brakes.  I bought
> it secondhand.  Although I love it and I've probably put 20 or 25
> thousand miles on it in the last 4 years, it would really be nice if I
> could mount fenders.  At least I've found that I can mount the
> wonderful Grand Bois 700x30 tires and still fit under the brakes.
>
> The thing is, I would really rather buy an off the shelf bike.  But I
> am 6'7" so my options are limited.  So I got to thinking about the AHH
> again.  Last year I thought about the AHH and I called Riv and whoever
> I talked to discouraged me because of my weight, probably 255-260 at
> that time.  But now I have slimmed down to the 235-240 range so I
> started thinking AHH again.  Rivendell's site says the weight limit is
> 220 lbs on fire roads.  But I am never going to ride on fire roads.
> The AHH would mainly be my brevet bike.  And that is one of the
> recommended uses of it.
>
> Anyways, here is an email I sent to the friend that I rode with on Monday.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I am thinking of a new bike.  need fenders.
>
> I wanted custom Ti for a while but then decided the steel rust thing
> really doesn't bother me that much.  It's not like my current
> Rivendell is falling apart from rust or anything and I've put it
> through the wars.
>
> I called Rivendell.  The A Homer looks like the best fit for a light
> touring kind of bike, but they say the weight limit is 220 on fire
> roads on their web site.  I talked to someone a while back and they
> tried to guide me more towards an Atlantis.  Well I weigh around 240,
> but I will probably never take it on a fire road.  The infamous Kulow
> Road will probably be the worst thing it ever sees.  I know you
> haven't done a Houston Randonneurs ride but if you ever do, Kulow is a
> road not to be missed ;-) ;-)
>
> So anyways this time Riv said if I rode in on-road only that it should
> probably be no problem at all.  My current Riv Custom was built for a
> guy that was 6'5", 190, after all.
>
> On the 67cm AHH, the seat tube is a cm shorter but the top tube is
> actually a bit longer (64.5).  So I would get stretched out just a
> little more if I were using the same stem.  Of course I could always
> shorten up the stem a cm and that would leave things about equal.
> OTOH, my go-fast Paul Taylor custom has a 66cm top tube and it's not
> at all uncomfortable, although it does have a real short stubby
> threadless stem on it.
>
> One sticking point is, the price on the AHH frame has gone up by $500,
> to $2000.  That's kind of hard to take, knowing it was $500 cheaper
> not that long ago.  But I know they raised the price because they were
> getting squeezed by the exchange rates and they need to make their
> business work.  Still, the American consumerist in me just doesn't
> like it I guess.
>
> I suppose I could maximize my economy by doing the bog stock complete
> build.  That is $3400. They descibed it to me on the phone about how
> it was described on the site:
>
> Headset: Shimano Ultegra or just as good equivalent.
> Seat post: Nitto Crystal Fellow 27.2.
> Stem: Nitto Technomic Deluxe.
> Handlebar: Nitto Noodle.
> Saddle: Brooks B.17 or Selle An-Atomica.
> Brake lever: Shimano Tiagra (BL-400). We use it on all the bikes.
> Brakes: Silver sidepulls.
> Shifters: Shimano bar-ends or Silver (about same price).
> Front Der: Campagnolo Mirage or Champ, or IRD or Shimano.
> Rear Der: Shimano LX Rapid-Rise. Others available, too
> Chain: Shimano or IRD or SRAM. All about the same.
> Cassette: IRD 8- or 9-speed, or Shimano/SRAM equiv. We recommend a 11
> OR 12-32 if you want the most versatility, for steep roads and trails.
> Shimano makes the XTR ina  12-32, but that's like $150. IRD makes a
> 9sp or 8sp for about $55. Basically, no diff between an 11 or 12.
> They're both such big gears that you'll hardly ever use them, so they
> just become space-takers, anyway.
> Wheels: Shimano LX hubs, Synergy or Mavic rims, DT butted spokes,
> built here by Rich, and they're poifect in every way.
> Tires: Any you like, but we recommend the newly arrived Jack Browns.
> Bottom Bracket: IRD or Shimano or Tange 113mm
> Crank: Sugino XD-2 46-36-24.
> Pedals: If you have your own favorite modern clipless, go with them.
>
> I think I might run my TA carmina in lieu of the Sugino, and I would
> definitely want Tektro brake levers instead of the Shimanos, I have
> them now and love them, they set up real nice with the Noodles.  Maybe
> I should try a 48cm Noodle.  Haha.
>
> Well, we'll see how my taxes look...
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> thoughts appreciated.
> I am not against the Sugino btw, but I prefer a 180 crank.  I have a
> real nice Campy Record alloy double that was originally on the Custom,
> I could put it back on and use my TA on the AHH.  Decisions,
> decisions.
>
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