On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 10:59 PM, 42MuskhamSt <attew...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Just wondering if a 60cm Hillborne would work?  I seem to remember
> reading that they had a 56cm set up for one of their taller riders and
> because of the sloping top tube geometry, the fit worked.

My gut reaction was oh hells no, but then I took your question
seriously and went to examine the geometries.  Because of the sloping
TT, the "virtual" TT is actually 62, same as the Atlantis' actual
(with much less slope) TT.  So I guess it came closer than I thought,
but it would require a lot of seat post showing and probably still a
big stem.  I don't think it would be ideal, but it could be made to
work.

Kinda like, this was made to work:
http://flickr.com/photos/23646...@n03/sets/72157612182631020/

I went out to Phoenix for the University of Texas' bowl game against
Ohio State and while I was there, I wanted to ride the Southern
Arizona Randonneurs' "Casa Grande Ruins" 200K.  But I already had my
plane tickets on Continental, and they wanted $100 each way to take a
bike box along.  So I called 12 different bike shops in Phoenix
looking for a suitable or even workable bike.

Finally found the Giant OCR XL depicted in the photos at Pinnacle Peak
Cyclery.  Said it was for riders 6'1"-6'5", right on the seat tube.
We made it work with an extra long seatpost and a 160 mm adjustable
stem on an extreme up angle.  Even so the handlebars were an inch or
two lower than I was used to.  But at least the bike was in excellent
tune as far as the drivetrain and brakes went.

Now the tires, that's another story, some cheap 23mm Kendas and they
were horrible.  I used to ride Gatorskins in the 28mm size and they
were not good rolling tires compared to the Grand Bois 30mm I ride
now.  But the Kendas were a whole nother level of sluggishness worse
than the Gatorskins.  Seriously, I probably would not like bike riding
as much if I was forced to use those tires all the time.  I have a
basket full of Michelin Pro2Race 23's I bought at a closeout for about
$30 each that I mostly use on my racy bike.  I was going to take two
with me to Phoenix and replace the tires on the rental bike when I got
there, but I forgot to bring them so I had to suffer with the Kendas.
I hope those Kendas at least last a long time.  I did not suffer a
flat but then I didn't see many road hazards either.  I guess I'm just
spoiled with my usual tire choices.  The Pro2Race are the nicest all
around 23mm tires made IMO, and the Grand Bois are the best tires I
have ever used to date.

Then don't even get me started on the 24(!!) paired spoke wheels that
I was riding, I was nervous that wheel failure was imminent at any
moment.

Anyways, to sum all this rambling up, my rental bike worked well
enough for one 200K on mostly perfectly smooth roads.  But I'd never
actually own it.  While the Hillbourne would probably be nicer in a
number of ways than that rental bike, I don't think I'd probably want
to own it either.  The AHH 67 is a perfect fit and worth the extra
bones IMO.

And I should not throw the fine folks at Pinnacle Peak Cyclery under
the bus either, despite it's shortcomings as compared to a fine
bicycle like a custom Rivendell, I was absolutely thrilled that I was
able to rent a bike that allowed me to go out and ride the brevet.
Pinnacle Peak has excellent customer service and bent over backwards
to get me all the things I thought I needed for my brevet.  They
opened a bento box and a saddlebag from the packaging just to let me
have it for the ride.  Good folks and I highly recommend them.

-Jim

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