Thanks for posting this.  A few years ago I did  a similar experiment
with my Ram, SOMA, and world championship, Marinoni classic steel
racing frame.  The differences were (2 lbs) too small for a
recreational cyclist to worry about.

In the last few days I have been in communication with Rodriguez (mfg
of steel single & tandem frames) about purchasing a custom frame from
them.  I asked about weight; they asked why; I said because I will
have to lift this bike onto a repair stand and a roof rack.

Here's there rather telling response:
"6 S&S couplings add about 3 pounds to a tandem frame.

You're right about weight differences and lifting.  In the world of
tandems, you'll find some amazing weight claims that are.....well.....
let's say.... less than truthful. For instance, I once had a customer
bring in his $20,000 (that's not a typo) carbon fiber travel tandem
for us to see.  He told me that it was 29 pounds.  When we had the
bike in the repair shop (we were fixing a flat tire) I went back and
weighed it with our digital scale.  It was 39 pounds.  I didn't tell
him, but I wanted to know for myself how much the bike actually
weighed.   I wrote an article about truth in weight publishing if
you'd like to read it, let me know and I'll send it to you."

peace,
michael



On Mar 24, 7:46 pm, Bruce <[email protected]> wrote:
> Some time, not too far back, there was a discussion of the "heavy" 753 tube 
> set used on early Rivendells made by Waterford. Having time on my hands 
> tonight, I dragged a scale out in the garage and weighed my bikes.  All were 
> weighed as is, with regular (in my case 28 to 37 mm) tires, brass bells, 
> steel railed leather saddles, and saddle bags (these were emptied though) 
> Things like pedals and bottle cages, and cylcometers are all attached. Many 
> of you know that the manufacturers who tout how light their bikes are take 
> much of this stuff off and fit the skinniest, thinnest tires they can on for 
> the weighing.
>
> Early Rivendell with "stout" tubes : 22 lbs      650B  32mm tires
> Nashbar Mark III with 26" wheelset: 23 lbs     559     28 mm tires
> Rambouillet:                                   24 lbs     559     32 mm tires
> Saluki (with fenders and front rack )  27.5 lbs   650B   37 mm tires
>
> They all feel great to ride, and honestly, the weight of two filled water 
> bottles on the 1st bike makes it about as heavy as the last without the 
> water!  Of course, weights vary based on equipment, but nothing here is all 
> that heavy, considering what you get for the weight that's there.
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