My '95 Road Std. weighs around 21 lb, maybe a tick less, including
bottle cages but no pump or bags.  It has a few lighter-than-average
parts on it (American Classic seatpost and rear hub, Dia Compe BRS200
brake calipers, Speedplay X1 pedals).  Tires are Vittoria Rubino Pro
28 mm (~270 gm IIRC), the saddle is a VO Model 6, leather on steel
frame, same weight as my old B17.

The 'less than a full water bottle' arguement always seems specious to
me.  I don't carry less water to make up for a heavier bike.

Bill


On Mar 24, 4:46 pm, Bruce <[email protected]> wrote:
> Some time, not too far back, there was a discussion of the "heavy" 753 tube 
> set used on early Rivendells made by Waterford. Having time on my hands 
> tonight, I dragged a scale out in the garage and weighed my bikes.  All were 
> weighed as is, with regular (in my case 28 to 37 mm) tires, brass bells, 
> steel railed leather saddles, and saddle bags (these were emptied though) 
> Things like pedals and bottle cages, and cylcometers are all attached. Many 
> of you know that the manufacturers who tout how light their bikes are take 
> much of this stuff off and fit the skinniest, thinnest tires they can on for 
> the weighing.
>
> Early Rivendell with "stout" tubes : 22 lbs      650B  32mm tires
> Nashbar Mark III with 26" wheelset: 23 lbs     559     28 mm tires
> Rambouillet:                                   24 lbs     559     32 mm tires
> Saluki (with fenders and front rack )  27.5 lbs   650B   37 mm tires
>
> They all feel great to ride, and honestly, the weight of two filled water 
> bottles on the 1st bike makes it about as heavy as the last without the 
> water!  Of course, weights vary based on equipment, but nothing here is all 
> that heavy, considering what you get for the weight that's there.
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