Here, here... I'd like to find the equivalent in the 622mm size. I'm a fan of the 35 Pasela TG's. I tried the 700x42 Schwalbe Marathon supremes hoping that they would have a similar feel. They are nice and wide, but don't have the same ride characteristics. I know tire feel is VERY subjective, but the Schwalbe's felt sluggish at lower pressures and harsh at higher pressures. I got a pair of the Jack Brown green tires on my All-Rounder. They feel great, love the ride, but I'd like another 10-15mm. Arguably, the niche for large volume, light-weight tires is small. The only bike in the Rivendell line up that would really fit something like a 700x45 with fenders would be the Atlantis. Even though there are a few other bikes out there that would fit such a tire, the market is SMALL. I'm not holding my breath waiting for such a creature being made.
Rivendell shows the 700x37 Pasela TG's in stock. I don't know what that extra 2mm really equates to compared to the 35mm version. On May 12, 6:18 am, Steve Palincsar <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 22:30 -0400, Rene Valbuena wrote: > > In my humble opinion, there is no elegant solution in force-fitting a > > fender which is not intended to fit a bike. > > If you wish to limit yourself to a fender no wider than 50-52mm, fine. > Some feel that width is adequate for a 42mm Hetre. > > > >I respectfully submit, Riv's charts are wrong. After all, when they > > >were conceived, the Hetre did not exist. And how might you experience a > > >Hetre with a 700C Atlantis? What 700C tire is there that is like the > > >Hetre? I can think of none. In fact, the closest I know of is the 37mm > > >Pasela, and from what I can see, nobody's had that in stock for at least > > >a year. > > > Oops, I got carried away with the Atlantis;>) > > We all knew that. Where in the 700C world is the equivalent of the > Hetre? If the big argument of the "700C, 650B, mox nix, it's just a > way to get a wide tire into a small frame" is that there is no > difference in the tires, the diameter matters only as diameter. For > that to be true, there would have to be a tire of the same width and > suppleness in the 622 size as the Hetre. What is that tire? > > > > > >In my opinion, Rivendell has significantly retreated from its earlier > > >support of the 650B size, and now appears to regard it as merely an > > >option for smaller frames to fit a 32mm tire. Now I like 32mm tires, I > > >ride them on my Velo Orange Randonneur, but believe me, 32mm is NOT a > > >wide low pressure tire for really rough roads. > > > There are the new Hillbornes and Betty Foys in the RBW stable that are 650b > > bikes. They are not really for rough roads, which they are not really > > intended for. I think RBW is very clear that if you really want to ride > > rough roads, there is the Bombadil which can fit really fat tires. But as > > have been said about the Hetres's toughness not yet proven on rough roads, > > why would anyone think of fitting a hetres on a 650b Bombadil? > > The Hilsens and Hillbornes and Foys are 650B bikes only in the small > sizes. In my sizes (59-60cm) those bikes are 622, and the intended tire > is a 33.3mm Jack Brown. Trust me, there's a lot of difference between a > 42mm Hetre and any 33mm tire. > > Regarding the Hetre's "unproven toughness" -- the tire's been out there > for more than a year. It's a road tire. I wouldn't use it on a track > littered with large sharp stones. But then, I don't ride on tracks > littered with sharp stones. On Northern Virginia dirt roads, of which > we have a nice network, the Hetre is wonderful. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
