On Sep 28, 2009, at 10:47 AM, usuk2007 wrote:
> To comment on Tim's comments > >> >> That's a nuisance, especially if you have put the buckles inside the >> bag to snug it up against the saddle. You have to open the bag, move >> the contents out of the way, do gymnastics to see or blindly undo the >> buckles by feel, drag the slightly oversized straps through the slots >> in the saddle, etc., etc. If you're going to be removing and >> installing the bag a few times a day, some sort of QR system is >> helpful. > > The straps are a bit oversized for the holes in the bag at first, but > they quickly soften up making it simple to get the straps through. For > me QR mechanisms just add a complication. With a little bit of > practice and the bag can be opened and the inside buckles undone > quickly, not as fast as with a QR mechanism, but I don't mind taking > 20 secs out of my day to do this. My routine is to open the saddlebag, > take out my lock and lock the bike up, then remove the bag. You are a faster buckler than I, Gunga Din. I'm impressed- instead of 20 seconds it would be about 3-4 minutes for me. Longer if it's cold or wet. Plus, if the buckles are inside the bag the strap has to be partially pulled out of the bag to get it through the saddle loop. Too much fiddling around for me, hence my "leave the bag on the bike" philosophy. > Even if you do use a QR mechanism the buckles should still be done up > on the inside of the bag. I believe that many of the reported issues > with saddlebag sway are due to improper mounting. I think you're right about that. I think I read about putting the buckles inside the bad in the Riv Reader in reference to the Banana Bag and transferred that notion to my Nelson LF. The result was very minimal sway. >> I don't like the Bagman, the Carradice SQR, etc. They look like >> designs asking to fail at some point due to the long lever with teh >> weight of the bag at the far end. And they just look kludgy to my >> eyes. > > I agree about the way the QR systems look, but the regular Bagman puts > the saddelbag very close to the saddle and cannot even be seen when > the bag is mounted. The lever arm is not large at all. There is a long > vertical section, but that obviously doesn't contribute to the moment. > I can see an argument being made about the gauge of the rod used in > its construction, but it's only supposed to carry 20lbs and I've found > it to be just right for the Nelson Longflap. Many of these designs also move the bottom of the bag away from the back of the rider's thighs. "Bag rub" is not something the bothers me unless the bag is very full (15-20 lbs). I have a standoff made from PVC tubing for those situations which pushes the bag away from the post, held on by a toe strap that passes around the seatpost, through the tube and through the strap loop on the bag. It only takes a couple of inches to get the bag away from one's thighs. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
