On Sep 28, 2009, at 11:27 AM, [email protected] wrote:

> On Sep 28, 7:02 am, Tim McNamara <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Sep 27, 2009, at 11:30 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 26, 5:11 am, James Dinneen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> A 33.5 inch standover height seems way too tall for a 55.5 seat
>>>> tube. Are you sure on that measurement?
>>
>>>> --- On Fri, 9/25/09, [email protected] <[email protected]>  
>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>> hello all I'm selling my 55.5 cm all rounder frame the standover
>>>> height is just a little too tall for me it's about 33.5 inches.
>>>> It is
>>>> in amazing shape no dents or dings a few scratches and chips of
>>>> paint.  This is a waterford built bike burnt orange color it has a
>>>> 57.5 top tube ctoc and takes 700 c tires has fender eyelets no rack
>>>> eyelets.  Frame and Fork only 1100. email me if you want photos.
>>> The allrounders were a semi custom bike at this time and could be
>>> ordered with a varity of modifications like 700c instead of  
>>> 26inches.
>>> The standover is so high because of the combination of a already  
>>> high
>>> bottom bracket with 700c wheels.  The main difference between  
>>> this and
>>> the long low besides the bottom bracket height is the  
>>> chainstays.  The
>>> longlows were narrower, where as the allrounders were wide enough to
>>> accept a very large tire size.
>>
>> To the best of my recollection- and having paid quite a bit of
>> attention when I ordered my A/R in 1996- the Waterford era A/Rs were
>> not available as 700C bikes.  And they certainly did not have a
>> "high" bottom bracket as a low bottom bracket is a hallmark of
>> Grant's designs.  Because the frames were designed for 26" wheels,
>> the A/Rs had much less BB drop than the Road and LongLows.  You seem
>> to be describing an A/R with the wrong wheels in it.
>>
>> Some photos would be very interesting.

> I have built up and ridden this bike with 700c wheels there is no way
> a 26inch wheel would work with this frame.  A 650b is even too small
> to work with the position of the cantilever bosses, which I tried to
> lower the standover height.

Well, this is certainly a peculiar sounding All-Rounder.  Are you the  
original owner?

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