This is a separate but related question. Who, if anyone, makes knickers or
shorts that rise high enough in the rear (ie, high waist or low crotch) so
that they feel comfortable and cover adequately when you are bent over in
the hooks? The MUSAs, pants and knickers, are marginal in that respect, as
are most of the store-bought knickers I've worn -- Bicycle Fixations, 2
models; Rivendell; Swerve; and the Nashbars are only adequate because they
were out of Mediums and I had to buy Large and have the waists taken in.

Come to think of it, one nice thing about the thrift store pair of North
Face (non-lycra) cycling shorts I have is that they are cut high in the
rear.

One virtue of making riding pants out of thrift store kakhis and wool dress
pants is that you can choose those with "higher rise".

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 4:01 PM, hsmitham <hughsmit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.prana.com/nemesis-knicker.html?color=darkkhakihristian,
>
> My knock on the new (don't have experience with the old style) is though
> baggy the waist was super tight with all the elastic, in my case size
> large. So I went with Prana' Nemesis Knickers. They're actually climbing
> knickers but have very little elastic other than the built in stretch of
> the fabric. The opening of the leg area flares some as opposed to cycling
> specific ones but doesn't bother me.
>
> I also wear their shorts made of the same fabric.
>
> My knock on other manufacturers of cycling knickers is how tight they are
> seeming in my use to be restricted in all the wrong places when in motion.
>
> YMMV.
>
> -Hugh
> los Angeles, CA
>
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