Thanks for all the suggestions so far everyone.  In the meantime I remembered 
about Zoic.  I have a pair of their shorts and really like them.  They make 
knickers too: http://www.zoic.com/reign-knicker 
<http://www.zoic.com/reign-knicker>.  AND: coincidentally they’re having a 50% 
off sale! 


> On Nov 7, 2014, at 6:01 PM, hsmitham <hughsmit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> http://www.prana.com/nemesis-knicker.html?color=darkkhakihristian,
> 
> My knock on the new (don't have experience with the old style) is though 
> baggy the waist was super tight with all the elastic, in my case size large. 
> So I went with Prana' Nemesis Knickers. They're actually climbing knickers 
> but have very little elastic other than the built in stretch of the fabric. 
> The opening of the leg area flares some as opposed to cycling specific ones 
> but doesn't bother me.
> 
> I also wear their shorts made of the same fabric. 
> 
> My knock on other manufacturers of cycling knickers is how tight they are 
> seeming in my use to be restricted in all the wrong places when in motion. 
> 
> YMMV.
> 
> -Hugh
> los Angeles, CA
> 
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