On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 10:43:53 AM UTC-7, drew beckmeyer wrote: > > > > -what the actual chainstay length is, other than "long" >
Hope I'm not citing wrong information here, but I think the chainstay length matches the seat tube length. > -am i an idiot for not understanding the frame lock clue? > I think it's that thing on the underside of the seatstay, in front of the tire. I have not clue about bike locks though, or what it would fit. -i know im not supposed to harp on it, but does the swoopy seat stay mean > less rigidity? > Grant says "no." Even if it did though, I'd consider it a "plus:" A little bit of compliance, similar to what you get at the front end, from a well designed, curved, rigid fork. But consider this: The Ritchey Plexus (mtb) and Chicane (road) bikes of the late '90s had curved stays which were touted as giving offering some compliance on purpose. Yet every review you ever read says that it was un-noticeable. And Ritcheys used ultra-light tubing for featherweight racer types. I think we can assume the Clem will be heavier, if longer. -is anyone else sorta turned off by the recommendations to take off good > parts and add crummier ones? i mean, if you do that, more power to you, and > if it's on the standard build, also understandable from a price point. but > it seems kind of like they dont think this bike is worthy of metal pedals > or cork grips or whatever....even if you want to put them on yourself. its > an odd play for a bike that could be a great entry level riv for people who > like the brand and wanted one, but couldnt justify the price. > Doesn't turn me off. They've been telling us for years to bang up, and scratch the paint, drip shellac over, and otherwise beassage even our high-end Rivendell bikes. I get where they're coming from - that a bike is a consumable product, meant to be used. But, for me, it's still a big investment that I'd like to keep indefinitely. Deep down, they know that most of us feel that way too - which was part of the inspiration for this bike I think: To help us get over the irrational attachment to material things, to worry less, and to ride more. You also have to keep in mind that Rivendell and most of the customer base is in the Bay Area which, from what I can tell, must be the bike theft capitol of the world... sadly. So the bike is meant to find that balance between something that is enjoyable to ride, but won't break your heart "when" it gets stolen. I can't wait to see the uglification sticker kit. Nonetheless, if I really end up liking the bike, nothing is going to keep me from putting nice parts on it and cherishing it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
