The top choices for 650b tires (especially if you don't need extra puncture
protection) are the Compass tires:
Babyshoe Pass 650x42
Loup Loup Pass 650x38

and their older Grand Bois versions:
Hetre 650x42
Lierre 650x38

My current favorite is the Panaracer/Pacenti Pari-Moto.  They're super fast
and light, and only $32 each from Mike Kone at Boulder Bicycles
<http://boulderbicycle.bike/In-Stock-Pari-Moto-650b-x-38-tire-black-tread-w-tan-sidewall-by-Panaracer.html>.
 650x38 gives you a little more room for a fender.

The above tires are the lightest tires with very low rolling resistance.
Other tires, with a bit sturdier casings:
Panaracer Pasela 650x42
Soma New Xpress 650x38
Panaracer Col De La Vie 650x38
Fatty Rumpkin green 650x41

and quite sturdy:
Fatty Rumpkin blue 650x41
Schwalbe Marathon 650x42


For fenders, the SKS P45 is easy to install, and has the least-obtrusive
hardware.  On the VO fenders I have now, the stay attachment bolts intrude
into the tire clearance.  SKS chromoplastic fenders have the stay bolts on
the sides, out of the way.

For wheels, I built my own with Pacenti PL23 rims (on clearance for $40
<http://www.pacenticycledesign.com/index.php/products/rims/pl23/pl23-650b-36h-detail>),
a dynamo hub, and the VO Grand Cru touring cassette hub.

Tim

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 7:57 AM, alan lavine <cigar...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 6:44:47 PM UTC-4, alan lavine wrote:
>>
>> Hello to the group, I'd like to pick y'alls brains (sp?)
>>
>> I have a 64 cm Ram that I bought used, and I'm trying to see how it fits
>> into my stable.  I have Compass tires 700 x 32, measures 30, on it now, and
>> I realize that I can either put larger tires on it OR fenders but not
>> both.  I wanted both so that it could be used as my credit card touring
>> bike...looking for 38's with full fenders.
>>
>> Would a 650 conversion achieve that? Would it change the ride at all?
>> I've never ridden 650's before.  Besides new wheels and possibly brakes,
>> depending on available reach, what other modifications are required?
>>
>> The serial # is R038...any idea as to date of manufacture?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your wisdom. I've not been much of a contributor
>> but I read this blog daily and always enjoy it and learn from it.
>>
>> Alan LaVine
>> NYC
>>
>
> As usual, the group has responded in an exemplary fashion, thanks to all.
> -I currently have 11 mm clearance at the closest point, which is where the
> end of the rear fender would attach to the frame between the chain stays.
> Not much with tires that measure 30.
> -Not too concerned about pedal strike, not sure if I even pedal thru a
> turn, but I'm not an aggressive rider to begin with.  If this works, I will
> be changing cranks anyway, so I can go from a 175 to 170.
> -Currently have Riv silver brakes and the pads are at the highest position
> in the slot. Measuring, I can get the extra 19 mm needed for 650's in the
> the lowest point in the slot.  Front and rear are the same.
> -Plan would be for 42 mm tires...any recs for a comfy tire? Flat
> protection not an issue.
>
> So it seems with new wheels and tires, maybe crank, this can happen
> easily.  Any recs for wheels that won't break the bank?  The VO ones look
> quite nice.
>
> Also, for a bit of background: I had a Surly LHT that I used for fully
> loaded touring, and it was excellent.  But with a light load, or none, the
> bike was rigid as hell and my aging, arthritic body and butt were not
> happy.  I stripped it, donated the frame, and put the wheels and components
> on a vintage Fuji Saratoga made with Ishiwata tubing.  More flexible yes,
> but comfy, and just fine for CC touring. I have 38 Compass tires on it, the
> largest I've ever used, and love it to death. So I'm just trying to
> maximize the possibilities with the Ram, and further explore the world of
> fat tires.
>
> Again, heartfelt thanks to all.
> Alan
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