Frankly, having tried Pletscher and VO 2-leg stands, as well as the usual
Greenfeld bb stand, I've found left rear dropout stands most effective at
holding up a bike under assymetrical rear loads, even with 20 lb in the
pannier on the stand-side and none on the opposite.

That said, I remember someone on some list pointing to a specialist
center-mount 2-leg stand with much wider legs than those of the Pletscher
and VO stands, that apparently was much more apt to support assymetrical
rear loads -- perhaps someone knows what this is?

That said again, I can't see the point of a kickstand plate that doesn't
support any kind of stand you bolt to it. My Sam Hill was not harmed by the
VO stand I bolted to it, for what that's worth.

On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Ginz <theg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have an unused plestcher double legger if anyone wants to experiment...
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