OK. Here are some snapshots - hope this is helpful. These two stems seem to put the bars in an "equivalent" position to me, which is to say that the center of the main, straight part of the grips are the same fore/aft distance from the rider. Bosco is on a 130mm/10 degree stem, which is probably pretty comparable to the 120mm/0 degree bullmoose stem with the quill extended a bit. Albatross is on a similar 70mm/10 degree stem. So, to my eye, it looks like there would need to be around 6 cm shorter stem on the albatross, to fit the same. Easy enough to extrapolate from there, if you're looking to change the riding position as well.
<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-yeId-_WrRXY/VoMQa2xiwAI/AAAAAAAAAOQ/EJO_vOYWrBU/s1600/ClemBar_1.jpg> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vvPXbJgkxt8/VoMQezj_usI/AAAAAAAAAOY/sZyhfbOlWZs/s1600/ClemBar_2.jpg> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3bb1Is2PC9g/VoMQiitPo5I/AAAAAAAAAOg/a70RbywDmpM/s1600/ClemBar_3.jpg> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-peHKv9aLEN4/VoMQmL6VRYI/AAAAAAAAAOo/cSFwWiLBPnU/s1600/ClemBar_4.jpg> Garth, I know what you mean about thinking twice before cutting the steerer. I definitely will. The counter argument is that this bike seems to be made specifically for the Bosco or something quite similar, so I don't think there's as much need to keep all options open. The problem for me is that the frame is borderline too big. So between the sloped top tube, the extended steerer tube and the rise of the bars themselves, they just end up too high relative to my saddle. Cutting a half inch off would give me much needed ability to lower them, while someone taller could still simply extend the stem On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 3:46:47 PM UTC-7, Tim Wood wrote: > > Thanks everyone for the input. I sent a PM to Keith requesting comparison > photos of the albas and Boscos on the Clem but maybe others would want to > see them, Keith up to you if you want to post them here. > > A lot of my desire to do a bar switch is fit related, but some of it has > to do with aesthetics as I don't love the bull moose. I like the look of a > level quill stem versus the positive angle and triangular set up of the > bull moose. > > I think a tallux stem with an Alba bar would give me the drop and lean I > am looking for, taking in to account the -40mm difference between bars > only, and the further difference between the stem angle of the two styles. > > I never really considered the width of the Alba to be a deal breaker, or > concern, and this is the first time I'm hearing about that being an issue. > All other reviews and comments I read about the bars is that people love > them and often never look back once installed. The width of the boscos is > pretty extreme and I can't see wanting to go any wider. As it stands you > have to be pretty focused riding through traffic and on narrow bridge decks > or passing others on paths. I would be happy with a reduction in width. > > Sounds like I've made my decision! Sometimes writing out your thoughts is > all you need to do. Thanks for being the sounding board! > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.